- From: Peter Vojtáš <Peter.Vojtas@mff.cuni.cz>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:09:10 +0200
- To: "Ken Laskey" <klaskey@mitre.org>
- Cc: "Kathryn Blackmond Laskey" <klaskey@gmu.edu>, public-xg-urw3@w3.org, "Umberto Straccia" <umberto.straccia@isti.cnr.it>
Example is nice, but I would stress to use web examples, even if it is in an article on the web, somebody says ...XY...is tall, but he/she does not claim tall:0.7, we have to tend to more realistic web-examples (e.g. in our use cases). I agree it depends on the society, circumstances,.... are we going to model also these? Peter Please note my changed address Peter.Vojtas@mff.cuni.cz ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] To: Peter.Vojtas@mff.cuni.cz Cc: Kathryn Blackmond Laskey [mailto:klaskey@gmu.edu], public-xg-urw3@w3.org, Umberto Straccia [mailto:umberto.straccia@isti.cnr.it] Subject: Re: [URW3 public] OWL extensions [was Re: [URW3] ... three questions based on the last telecon] > Peter, > > We would always like to have "exact" information, but any measurement > has a degree of inexactness/uncertainty based purely on the preciseness > of the measuring instrument. At a crime scene, a suspect may be > described as tall but the accuracy depends on what the observer > considers tall, the vantage point from which the observer saw the > suspect, and whether the suspect was wearing shoes with heels. Also, > was the suspect tall in the context of a society where the average > height is 162 cm or 175 cm? Making use of the fact that the suspect > was "tall" requires many assumptions, most of which are implied in > conversation but never explicitly stated. > > What does this tell us about what needs to be represented in terms of > uncertainty? > > Ken > > On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Peter Vojtáš wrote: > > > > > I personaly would prefer to know the exact height of John and decide > > on my background and intention whether he is or not tall. > > So I am afraid that I do not understand where such an information > > can appear > > Peter > > > > > > Please note my changed address Peter.Vojtas@mff.cuni.cz > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kathryn Blackmond Laskey [mailto:klaskey@gmu.edu] > > To: Umberto Straccia [mailto:umberto.straccia@isti.cnr.it], > > public-xg-urw3@w3.org > > Subject: Re: [URW3 public] OWL extensions [was Re: [URW3] ... three > > questions based on the last telecon] > > > > > >> > >> > >>>> .... you can extend the language and the inference mechanism or > >>>> express and process the uncertainty within the standard language. > >>>> > >>>> tall(John) : 0.7 > >>>> > >>>> vs > >>>> > >>>> tall(John, 0.7) > >>>> > >>>> (... in both cases, without saying what 0.7 represents) > >> > >> Independent of which way we go on tall(John) : 0.7 or tall(John,0.7), > >> it will not be enough just to annotate sentences with a number > >> expressing some degree of certainty or plausibility or membership or > >> whatever. To do probabilistic reasoning, we need to be able to make > >> conditional independence statements, and to express conditional > >> probabilities. To do probability tractably depends on representations > >> composed out of local modules, and these local modules are > >> parameterized by conditional probabilities, not absolute > >> probabilities. > >> > >> K > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > Ken Laskey > MITRE Corporation, M/S H305 phone: 703-983-7934 > 7151 Colshire Drive fax: 703-983-1379 > McLean VA 22102-7508 > >
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