Re: Social Web XG Extra Meeting Wed. Oct 6th (12:00 Boston/16:00 London) - Wrapping up Final Report Take 2

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--Paul
On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Harry Halpin wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Mischa Tuffield
> <mischa.tuffield@garlik.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> <snip/>
>> On 6 Oct 2010, at 17:12, Paul Trevithick wrote:
>> 
>> Harry,
>> I just noticed something at the 11th hour:
>> In this para:
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport#Identity
>> There is this sentence:
>> 
>> A identity provider (also called identity selectors) is a social platform
>> that manages and accesses identities over multiple other social platforms
>> and applications.
>> 
>> The sentence has the effect of assigning the term "identity provider" a
>> meaning that conflicts BOTH with how that term is widely used within the
>> identity/security community AND with how the term is used in the rest of the
>> report.
>> In the identity/security community an identity provider is simply a single
>> service that provides a set of claims/attributes (possibly including an
>> identifier claim). For example, an OpenID "OP" would be considered an IdP.
>> The meaning assigned in the sentence above moves far beyond the traditional
>> definition of IdP to make it something that spans multiple platforms and
>> apps.
>> As a consequence, anyone familiar with the identity provider term will find
>> the above sentence off-putting, and disorienting.
>> SUGGESTION
>> In order to minimize any other changes to the report, replace the above
>> sentence with:
>> 
>> A identity provider is a service (e.g. an OpenID identity provider) that
>> provides a set of attributes about a person, often including an identifier
>> attribute (e.g. the OpenID identifier itself).
>> 
>> FWIW, I am happy to make this change when I go through and perform my
>> current edits, if no-one objects I will make the change which Paul has
>> suggested, and will try and make the language consistent throughout the rest
>> of the document.
> 
> Ah, missed that as well - I think that was from Christine's original
> text. Sounds good to me, but just to be clear, as we focus on
> authentication and try to keep that separate from attributes, could we
> simplify and say:
> 
> A identity provider is a service (e.g. an OpenID identity provider)
> that authenticates a person and provides a set of attributes about a
> person to a third-party.
> 
> Note that add of *authenticates* and being explicit about a
> third-party. That OK?
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> Mischa
>> 
>> --Paul
>> On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Harry Halpin wrote:
>> 
>> Everyone,
>> 
>>   I did some final edits to the report. I still haven't gotten slide
>> 16 from DanBri's slidedeck,  and gone through Alex Passant's changes
>> yet (will try to get to these tomorrow) - but overall it's very close
>> to done. I'm sending it out to our various invited speakers for
>> comments now, and we'll be talking about it tomorrow. The agenda is
>> basically unchanged from last meeting. So, if you haven't had time to
>> read over the final report and make changes, *now* is the time,
>> because we have to publish soon. The goal is to have all suggested
>> edits by Friday, and I'll go through them and then produce a new HTML
>> version on Saturday.
>> 
>> Final Report:
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/FinalReport
>> 
>> SWXG WG Weekly
>> 
>>    1. Convene [2]SWXG WG meeting of 2010-09-29T14:30-17:00GMT (See
>>       your [3]local time, i.e. 16:00 London, 11:00 Boston)
>>          + [4]Zakim teleconference bridge: Boston, USA:
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>>            [7]+44.117.370.6152 code:SWXG ([8]zakim calendar)
>>               o supplementary IRC chat: [9]#swxg on irc.w3.org port
>>                 6665
>>          + chair: hhalpin
>>          + scribe: bblfish
>>          + roll call, comments on the agenda.
>>          + PROPOSED: to approve minutes from [10]Sept 29th meeting.
>>          + PROPOSED: Last meeting, but everyone invited to keep
>>            participating through the Federated Social Web effort!
>> 
>>    2. Final Report Rough Draft: The latest (and hopefully, by time of
>>       meeting, last)rough draft is on the  wiki.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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