RE: Purpose of List [was Re: ACTION: Top Social Networking services]

Hello Harry et al. 

Please permit me to paraphrase in a language with which I am more familiar
and to parse your objectives more clearly (for me, at least): 

Three Purposes: 

A. To perform an inventory of services which have (and have not) already
implemented: 

    (1) one or more of the protocols which are on the list below
            
            OpenID, OAuth, OpenMicroBlogging, OpenSocial, FOAF, etc

    (2) any open source software 

B. To perform an inventory of the member privacy policies for each service

C. To study if and how "context" is used by each service on the list. 

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My questions/comments:

1. What new insights will the fact that a service has (or has not)
implemented A1 or A2 provide?  

How does knowing if a service has implemented one of these protocols help
us? How does it help the service? The end users? Do we give the service a
gold star? How is implementing OpenID (or another protocol on the list) more
important or relevant than, for example, knowing if a service has
implemented Facebook Connect (or, for purposes of argument, the MySpace
equivalent)?

2. I believe objective B is vague/needs to be fleshed out. At least not
clear to me. Can we say that we are seeking to document the "terms and
conditions for user data confidentiality" in each service on the list or do
we mean something more granular such as "can (or to what degree can, and how
does) a community member control the access others ("others" needs to be
defined) have to their personal data?"  

3. For objective C, I recommend that the study of context be defined more
granularly as well. 
Possible fields:
+  Has the service implemented support for device location (if so is it
using GPS, compass, cell triangulation, user entered data? All of the
above?)? 

+ Does the service have local peripheral or device/service awareness (e.g.,
Bluetooth support)? 

+ Has the service implemented support for visualization of user data on
maps?   If so, is it using Google Maps? Or another source?

+ Does the service offer Local search? Probably some other, more granular
questions on this as well.

4. Personally, I don't see how "C" has anything to do with mobile Web. Yes,
context has more dimensions and potentially, more automatic support (e.g.,
GPS is not usually found in a PC) when the user is mobile, but I don't
understand the "mobile Web" part. Many (perhaps most) contextually "rich"
services are implemented in a client application (not a browser, which I
equate with "the Web"). Please clarify or omit reference to Mobile Web.

Christine 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-xg-socialweb-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-xg-socialweb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Harry Halpin
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:50 AM
> To: Christine Perey
> Cc: public-xg-socialweb@w3.org
> Subject: Purpose of List [was Re: ACTION: Top Social 
> Networking services]
> 
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Christine 
> Perey<cperey@perey.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On this wiki page [1] I have posted some comments regarding the 
> > original list proposed on June 1, a few suggestions, and (below my 
> > comments) a separate list of 30 popular social network services.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am a little fuzzy about the long term 
> purpose of this 
> > list (and the wiki page does not say). As was mentioned 
> during one of 
> > the conference calls, there are already many lists of 
> social networks.
> >
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> On wiki-page:
> 
> Purpose: What social networking services implement which 
> technology, like OpenID, OAuth, OpenMicroBlogging, 
> OpenSocial, FOAF, etc. Is there any open-source software that 
> runs these sites? What is the policy and privacy settings for 
> each service? Do they allow use of context, and so can take 
> advantage of the mobile web?
> 
> [snip]
> 
> [1] 
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/TopSocialNetwo
> rkingSites
> 
> 
> 

Received on Wednesday, 10 June 2009 09:08:11 UTC