- From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:05:28 +0000
- To: James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- CC: Paul Groth <pgroth@gmail.com>, "<public-xg-prov@w3.org>" <public-xg-prov@w3.org>
Hi James, Thanks for your input. Your comments and some response are on the discussion page: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Talk:Proposal_for_a_Working_Group_on_Provenance Luc On 11/23/2010 10:28 AM, James Cheney wrote: > Hi all, > > Just to play devil's advocate, here are some comments. Maybe some of > these were answered already through the discussion Friday that I missed. > > 1. The deliverables are numbered D1-D9, but there is no D5. > > 2. There are a lot of deliverables for 2 years: 5 recommendations > and 3 notes. My understanding is recommendations require a longer > lead time and public comment period, so producing 5 recommendations > for a 2-year process seems like a lot. > > By comparison, have a look at the RDB2RDF charter/WG: it has only 5 > deliverables with 1-2 of them being recommendations, and was also > meant to run in 2 years, and I understand that that has still been a > slog. > > 3. What is the difference between having an XML "serialization" (D6) > vs. an OWL/RDF/etc. "formal model" (D2)? Why do both (or either) need > to be standardized? > > 4. Why do we have both a "formal model" and "formal semantics" > deliverable? What is the difference, and what are the expected > benefits of formalization? > > 5. Likewise, why do D4 (accessing and querying) and D7 (mappings) > need to be recommendations/standards, rather than notes? I can see > that the access issue might require some future architectural/protocol > standardization. But is that something that can be done by a WG > unilaterally? For querying and for the mappings I am not sure I > understand the rationale for standardization. These could perhaps be > sub-deliverables of the "primer" or "cookbook". > > > Overall, the current list gives me the impression of a last-minute > rush to include everything that might be useful. This inclusiveness > is good, but I worry that it might wind up overcommitting the WG or > making the plan look too ambitious for the time available. My feeling > is that the fewer discrete "tasks", the better for focus and > flexibility, since there is a start-up cost to each deliverable. > > I also wonder if we can estimate how much work the different parts > will take, and which are considered "must be recommendation" vs. > "decide later" and "required" vs. "optional". I understand that some > thought about this was already done in the various WG charter drafts > so maybe it is just a matter of transferring these to the wiki. > > --James > > On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Paul Groth wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> The deliverable list we agreed upon on Friday is now on the wiki at: >> >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Proposal_for_a_Working_Group_on_Provenance >> >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> >> > > -- Professor Luc Moreau Electronics and Computer Science tel: +44 23 8059 4487 University of Southampton fax: +44 23 8059 2865 Southampton SO17 1BJ email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk United Kingdom http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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