- From: Peter Murray <peter.murray@lyrasis.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:42:39 -0400
- To: "public-xg-lld@w3.org" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Colleagues --
The minutes of our call today are at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html
A text version follows the signature.
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Peter Murray Peter.Murray@lyrasis.org tel:+1-678-235-2955
Ass't Director, Technology Services Development http://dltj.org/about/
LYRASIS -- Great Libraries. Strong Communities. Innovative Answers.
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
LLD XG
30 Jun 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0115.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-irc
Attendees
Present
antoine, emma, ww, jodi, jeff__, AlexanderH, monica, pmurray,
kcoyle, marcia
Regrets
Michael, Uldis, Gordon, Daniel, Lars, Ray
Chair
Emma
Scribe
Peter
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Admin
2. [6]Final Report
3. [7]W3C Community Group
4. [8]Short report from ALA
* [9]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<emma> Previous: 2011-06-23
[10]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/23-lld-minu
tes.html
[10] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html
Admin
RESOLUTION: Accept minutes of previous telecon
[11]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/23-lld-minu
tes.html
[11] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html
emma:Reminder. Conference calls every other week during the summer.
Final Report
<emma> [12]http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/
[12] http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/
emma:We have the blog up and running
... some technical issues with the digres.it plugin. Blank pages
when trying to access the blog.
... it seems to be okay when you refresh the page a few times.
Waiting for the UKOLN colleagues to try to resolve the problem.
<kcoyle> yes, i got in just now w/o problems
monica:No further updates at this time.
<jodi> thanks for hosting the blog, and for following up on it! :)
<jodi> thanks! :)
monica:Regarding whether to keep the blog. UKOLN is an organization
committed to keeping links active, so in spirit the organization
will treat the blog like any other resource that they don't want to
see disappear.
<pmurray> We can also look into turning the blog into static HTML
pages.
antoine:We already have comments, and they seem focused on one
heading or one paragraph, so the digres.it plugin is useful for
capturing this.
<jodi> it's nice to have paragraph-level comments
<jodi> it's useful to start the discussion!
kcoyle:Making comments to start the discussion so the blog doesn't
look like an intimidating place.
<monica> agree - karen opening discussion will help to seed it
<antoine> +1
<ww> +1
ww:Turning it into static HTML pages is a good idea so one doesn't
need the complicated machinery behind it.
<antoine> +1
emma:Reminder to send the call for public comments out to lists and
mark it on the Dissemination_Lists wiki pages.
<emma>
[13]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
[13] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
<antoine> @ww: you've sent the call on openbiblio, I think?
<ww> antoine: yes
<emma>
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0080.h
tml
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0080.html
<antoine> @ww: ok! I'll mark it on the wiki
<scribe> ACTION:Monica to send email to ask for more volunteers
otherwise we will continue on our own [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action02] [DONE]
[16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0080.h
tml
[15] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action02
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0080.html
<scribe> ACTION:Jeff to keep track of further comments between June
24 and June 30 [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action08
<marcia> I sent to three I signed up.
<antoine> @marcia: thx! wiki is updated
<jodi> no, I'm not
emma/monica: When someone posts to the list for the first time, they
must be approved.
monica:subsequent comments from that individual do not go into the
moderation queue.
<marcia> @antoine: I wonder if we are supposed to not touch the
deliverable version in order to get the comments.
<ww> antoine: which wiki page? i've circulated it elsewhere as well
<antoine> @ww:
[18]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
[18] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
<antoine> no
<antoine> everything is alright, just trying to keep track of where
the call was sent
<scribe> ACTION: Antoine to keep track and answer comments until
today [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION:Monica to keep track of comments between July 1 and
July 8 [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action03]
[CONTINUES]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action03
<emma>
[20]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss
ignments
[20] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments
<jeff__>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=DraftR
eportReviewerAssignments&diff=5199&oldid=5169
[21] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=DraftReportReviewerAssignments&diff=5199&oldid=5169
<antoine> good idea to share that, jeff!
<kcoyle> i can do that
<jeff__> I can take the week after again
<scribe> ACTION:Karen Coyle to keep track of comments on the mailing
list between July 8 and July 15 [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04
<scribe> ACTION:Jeff to keep track of comments on the mailing list
between July 15 and July 22 [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05
emma:Comments on the reviews that we have received so far?
<jodi> it might be good to have fresh energy on that, along with the
original folks...
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on reacting
<ww> tangent: anyone from #lld at okcon?
antoine:It would be good to discuss comments during a telecon so we
don't lose momentum.
jeff:Tried to integrate the comments that didn't require too much
restructuring.
... reluctant to do restructuring without help from others.
antoine:Agree with jeff that we should be conservative. Any comment
that can be addressed by changing one word or sentence should be
made.
emma:Maybe the easiest way to go is to ask authors of each section
to keep an eye for comments on their section and for controversial
topics ask the chair to schedule it for a conference call.
<jeff__> +1
<kcoyle> +1
<antoine> +1
<marcia> ＋1
<scribe> ACTION:Editors of each section should watch for substantial
comments to their section [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06
<antoine> :-)
<kcoyle> +1 for magic, or things indistinguishable from...
emma:On the next call, ask the authors of each section to report on
substantive comments
<monica> to include comments on blog as well?
W3C Community Group
emma:There has been some activity in the W3C on this.
... They have created a discussion list and web page on which we can
see the different community groups. They are testing it with a few
incubator groups that are transitioning to community groups.
... They are using a web page with a wordpress blog and several
discussion lists.
... We have stated our desire to transition to a community group at
the end of our charter.
... We need to discuss this in July to decide whether we want to
make that transition or to go another way.
<ww> +1 to cg transition, :)
<jodi> yeah kcoyle & charper! :)
kcoyle:As of last week, the American Library Association has an
official library linked data group.
... Would be interest to see how we can combine groups and connect
groups.
<antoine> karen, can you say more on the ALA group? missions,
activities
kcoyle:Need to see how we make this a broad communication.
... It is a LLD interest group that is affiliated with the technical
services (ALCTS, e.g. cataloging) division and the information
technology group (LITA).
<jodi> wow!
kcoyle:this group could promote training.
... the group came up with a couple of tasks during the meeting:
gathering use cases in the community, developing training and how to
get information out to the rest of the library community, and a
couple of other things. (Karen to follow up when she gets access to
the wiki)
ww:Sounds nice, but to what extent will it be seen as an american
thing. the global scope is one of the nice things about the w3c.
kcoyle:it is a way to pull other interested U.S. parties into the
discussion. Hopes other groups would form elsewhere so there is a
local venue to meet.
emma:So the W3C group could be across the various local/national
groups?
kcoyle:Yes, because local is where people are connecting
face-to-face, so connecting to a international forum would be a good
thing.
antoine:It also allows the international group to hear what is
happening elsewhere.
... it could be that the IPR stuff and other things may raise issues
when we include things from other groups.
ww:This also came up with the BibTeX in JSON group. There are some
that are not convinced about RDF. Is it appropriate to bring that
kind of work into the LLD fold if we were to become a community
group?
<antoine> ALA?
<antoine> (other than Karen's group ;-) )
Short report from ALA
kcoyle:More than a dozen meetings about linked data, while in the
past there had been none.
... there was quite a bit of talk of because RDA coming along and
because Library of Congress looking for a replacement for MARC,
there was a lot of discussion about what the next data standard
would be.
<jodi> that's amazing!
<antoine> +1
kcoyle:it was an entirely different viewpoint from six months ago.
pmurray:I agree. I saw the same thing
kcoyle:It was mainly talking about what was happening in the future.
There was a great acceptance that there was going to be a major
change.
... kcoyle's hope that it will give a kind of "official blessing" on
this change coming from a well-respected organization and that it
will become a leverage point for people to get funding for projects.
kcoyle:also talked with vendors and will be sending the call for
review to some of the companies to make sure we get their comments.
<antoine> karen++
<jeff__> karen++
<jodi> bye!
[adjourned]
<ww> thanks! bye
<AlexanderH> thx
<marcia> Nice to participate 'on line'. Thanks
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION:Editors of each section should watch for substantial
comments to their section [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION:Jeff to keep track of comments on the mailing list
between July 15 and July 22 [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION:Karen Coyle to keep track of comments on the mailing
list between July 8 and July 15 [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06
[26] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05
[27] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04
[PENDING] ACTION:Monica to keep track of comments between July 1 and
July 8 [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action03]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action03
[DONE] ACTION:Monica to send email to ask for more volunteers
otherwise we will continue on our own [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Antoine to keep track and answer comments until today
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION:Jeff to keep track of further comments between June 24
and June 30 [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action08]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action02
[30] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/23-lld-minutes.html#action08
[End of minutes]
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