- From: Peter Murray <peter.murray@lyrasis.org>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:21:36 -0400
- To: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- CC: "public-xg-lld@w3.org" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
As an aside, you can easily do this by going to the history page of the wiki page and copying the link of the date/time entry. It'll come out looking like this: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=DraftReportWithTransclusion&oldid=5061 Peter On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: > > Yes, we would copy-paste the section, but I assumed that there would > be a link back to the report so that someone looking at a section > could see the context. If so, it should link back to the version with > the same date/time stamp as the version that was pasted. > > kc > > Quoting Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>: > >> Hi Karen, >> >> We agree on the requirements. But perhaps not on the means to meet >> them. I just thought that we would copy-paste the entire section >> contents into the blog posts, which would alleviate your worry 2. >> >> That being said, we could still create extra "editor's draft" wiki >> pages, for these reviewers who don't use the wiki >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits >> would be duplicated into >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits_EditorsDraft >> which could be the one edited (and both could link to each other in >> a disclaimer) >> >> But again I think this would be less important for reviewers that >> got the report via the wiki: they should expect a wiki to change... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Antoine >> >> >>> One thing Jodi, Peter, TomB and I discussed this morning in a chat >>> about our sections is that the blog posts should link to two things: >>> >>> 1 - the current state of the report >>> 2 - the time-stamped version of the section that is being reviewed >>> >>> This way, folks can look at the entire section as it was when the >>> review was started, but we can continue making changes without it >>> changing what people see if they go to look at the section under >>> review. >>> >>> I realize I might not have explained that well, but the main thing >>> is that we thought it would be confusing if the reviews are taking >>> place on a moving target, especially if someone goes from a blog >>> comment to the section being reviewed and doesn't see the text that >>> the commenter referenced. >>> >>> No matter what we do, editing and reviewing on a text that is >>> changing will be complicated. Links to "this version" and "latest >>> version, possibly with edits" might make it clearer. >>> >>> kc >>> >>> Quoting Emmanuelle Bermes <manue@figoblog.org>: >>> >>>> It would probably be easy enough to use the blog categories to order >>>> the sections. We could also have a "table of content" post linking to >>>> other posts, and use it to gather the general comments. I'm pretty >>>> sure there must be a function in Wordpress that allows to make a >>>> specific post stay always at the top of the home page. >>>> >>>> Monica, you can add me as admin, I'll be happy to have a look. >>>> >>>> Emma >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote: >>>>> +1 to all this. >>>>> >>>>> Note that since Monica's blog is Wordpress-based, it should be >>>>> easy to have >>>>> digress.it, according to what they say: >>>>> http://digress.it/help/#how-do-i-download-digressit >>>>> Monica, do you think someone at UKOLN could fetch the code and >>>>> put it in the >>>>> plug-in folder? >>>>> >>>>> If not, then we'd have to use some tricks: >>>>> - to reflect the structure we might have to post the final sections first? >>>>> That might be the best way not to lose the sequence, at least. >>>>> - for enabling posting comments on the entire document, we should have one >>>>> specific "report" post, with the title. And put it in front (ie., >>>>> posting it >>>>> last?) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Antoine >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Seconding Jodi's comments: it is important that the basic >>>>>> structure of the >>>>>> report be visible. Also that people can post comments that are >>>>>> general, no >>>>>> just specific to a sub-section. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also like the idea of listing recent changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> kc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting Jodi Schneider <jodi.schneider@deri.org>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks so much for doing this, Monica! I can be an admin, if you like >>>>>>> (use jodi.a.schneider@gmail.com ). These are good comment settings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A clean theme would be the veryplaintext one: >>>>>>> http://www.plaintxt.org/#veryplaintxt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did we decide on whether digress.it would be a good plugin to use? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whoever does post the report -- I'd suggest posting it in small >>>>>>> sections, >>>>>>> but making sure that the navigation makes sense (i.e. the >>>>>>> default shows the >>>>>>> first part first, the table of contents shows up in a sidebar). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps somebody can suggest how to display "recent comments" in a >>>>>>> sidebar? This should be a simple change and I know it's common in many >>>>>>> blogs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Jodi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2011, at 13:42, Monica Duke wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I took an action on Thursday to set up a blog to be used to gather >>>>>>>> comments on the draft report from the wider community. The blog is now >>>>>>>> available at: >>>>>>>> http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # If I may suggest 2 next steps: >>>>>>>> 1)We need to agree how we are going to post the report and do it asap - >>>>>>>> we did not agree this detail on the call. I guess it would be >>>>>>>> best if 2-3 >>>>>>>> volunteers (or even just 1?) took care of that. We can't spend >>>>>>>> too much time >>>>>>>> on deciding and doing it so we do not miss the chance to add >>>>>>>> the url to any >>>>>>>> emails being sent out to lists to request comments. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) I need to give access to others in the group who can help administer >>>>>>>> the blog and post to it (as will be agreed in 1). I suggest >>>>>>>> that I add one >>>>>>>> or two more as administrators, and others as editors. Please >>>>>>>> send me email >>>>>>>> addresses and roles as soon as they are agreed, and I will add them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Comments settings - the following are selected (this can of course be >>>>>>>> changed) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Comment author must have a previously approved comment (i.e. comment >>>>>>>> will be moderated until user has a first one approved) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Appearance >>>>>>>> I suspect others will agree that other than for purposes of >>>>>>>> usability we >>>>>>>> do not spend much time on cosmetics. I have done the basic, >>>>>>>> but I can make >>>>>>>> other changes in response to suggestions, and once we have one >>>>>>>> or two other >>>>>>>> administrators they too will be able to assist with this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Basic Wordpress features, plug-ins, settings etc are available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Monica -- Peter Murray Peter.Murray@lyrasis.org tel:+1-678-235-2955 Ass't Director, Technology Services Development http://dltj.org/about/ LYRASIS -- Great Libraries. Strong Communities. Innovative Answers. The Disruptive Library Technology Jester http://dltj.org/ Attrib-Noncomm-Share http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
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