- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:49:21 -0700
- To: "public-xg-lld@w3.org" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
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http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html
- kc
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
LLD XG
07 Jul 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jul/0002.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-irc
Attendees
Present
emma, pmurray, lai, antoine, kcoyle, edsu, jneubert, digikim,
dvilasuero, kefo
Regrets
Tom, Jodi, Lars, Uldis, Jeff, Monica, ross, Jon, Gordon,
William, Ray
Chair
Emma, Antoine
Scribe
Karen
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Admin minutes of previous telecon
2. [6]final report
* [7]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<emma> Previous: 2011-06-30
[8]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/30-lld-minut
es.html
[8]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html
<AlexanderH> Hi Emma, I only can follow via IRC today
<emma> Hi Alex, thanks for being online anyway !
<lai> hmm, a typo in my name ;-)
<digikim_> ARGH... how can it be that skype always wants to install
something when I'm in a hurry
<kai> @digikim: Dialing in with google talk is for free and works
very good
<dvilasuero> Hi, again having problems with my ip call
<dvilasuero> thanks antoine
<antoine> Scribe: Karen
<antoine> Scribenick: kcoyle
ADMIN: minutes of previous telecon
<emma> Chair: Antoine
RESOLVED: accept minutes of previous teleconference
No call next week; next call 21 July
Final Report
<antoine>
[9]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
[9] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists
calls have been sent to most/all lists in link
digress.it plugin is installed, there are a few issues connecting
<antoine>
[10]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss
ignments
[10]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments
keeping track of comments and reviews
volunteers are keeping track of comments on the page
<scribe> ACTION: Monica to keep track of comments between July 1 and
July 8 [DONE] [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01]
[11] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01
<edsu> nice work on the blog btw,
[12]http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/, i totally missed that it got
done
[12] http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/
Next, kcoyle for the next week, and then Jeff for the following week
<scribe> ACTION: dvilasuero to keep track of comments from July
23-July 30 [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02
<emma> Kcoyle: section "scope of this report not commented"
<edsu> kcoyle: i don't recall comments about that, other than we
should be talking about memory institutions and not cultural
institutions, which should be included in the scope
<emma> ... need to take into account general comments
There has been a comment that we should use 'memory institutions'
rather than 'cultural institutions'
<edsu> antoine: do you think we need to mention non-rdf linked data?
<antoine>
[14]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Li
nked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report
[14]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report
<edsu> kcoyle: i think we could say it *generally* uses rdf, rather
than it *does* use rdf
<edsu> antoine: ok, i think that was included
<edsu> kcoyle: we could say library linked data is any library data
that is expressed as linked data
<emma> +1
<dvilasuero> +1
<edsu> antoine: perhaps nuancing the rdf stuff, or removing it all
together
<edsu> kcoyle: yeah, i can fit that in there
scribe: LLD = any library data expressed as linked data
<emma>
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0085.h
tml
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0085.html
mentions research use of data
<edsu> kcoyle: this is the type of use case that makes me uneasy
about using 'memory institutions'
<emma> Dikson's review proposes a specific use case on researchers
publishing their data and model as well as their papers
<edsu> kcoyle: the emphasis is on keeping an archive, whereas
current uses seem to be really important ... not so much about
access to archives
<emma> I'm wondering if it fits in "benefits" or elsewhere in the
report
<edsu> antoine: perhaps if we just say they are sometimes called
'memory institutions' that will do the trick
<edsu> kcoyle: they 'function' as memory institions, but that's not
all they do
emma: cultural organization is more neutral and broader; memory
institution seems limited to archiving
<kai> +1 for cultural institution
<dvilasuero> +1 kcoyle they could function as memory institutions
<antoine> +1 for cultural
emma: include definition of memory and cultural in the scope
statement
<emma> +1 for cultural, could function as memory institutions
edsu: memory institution is more inclusive of the sciences; cultural
feels more like history, literature, art (humanities)
<dvilasuero> +1 edsu, memory is more inclusive
edsu: there is also short-term memory
<kai> we should define it anyway. cultural could also be something
like theatre. memory is only one aspect for me, access would be
another.
antoine: define them together in scope
<emma> I just recorded a comment on the blog ;-)
<emma> will need to be turned into a sentence
i can try to write a sentence
<emma> ok
ok
<scribe> ACTION: Karen and Emma to write a sentence adding cultural
and memory institutions together in some way [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03
Dickson's comment about using research data
<dvilasuero>
[17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Citation_of_S
cientific_Datasets
[17]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Citation_of_Scientific_Datasets
dvilasuero: there are some use cases talking about research and
scientific data sets
antoine: issue of scope - not sure we should say that libraries
should be curators of scientific data
emma: this is a scope issue - it is a benefit of LLD to link to
scientific and research data
<edsu> emma: +1
<edsu> i don't think libraries are the only players in library
linked data
antoine: this makes a connection between libraries and research
data, but doesn't say that libraries need to manage the data
emma: will add a sentence
antoine: and make a link to the citation use case; try to relate to
use cases elsewhere also
<dvilasuero> emma if you need a more comprehensive list of research
data use cases just let me know
antoine: section on available vocabularies and data sets
... some editorial comments have been received; also question of
division between vocabularies and data sets
... we already have discussed that
... value vocabs are datasets with a specific function
<edsu> kcoyle: i think even we find this to be ambiguous, i thought
that we covered it in our wording, but if we acknowledge there is
ambiguity then I think that takes care of it
antoine: wording needs to be more explicit
... we agree that the definitions are not fixed but may depend on
context or use
relevant technologies section: Jeff has made changes based on Jon's
comments
next: implementation challenges
both issues and recommendations sections will have many comments
<scribe> ACTION: Karen will convene issues and recommendations group
to identify things that need to be discussed with larger group for
July 21 meeting [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04
<scribe> ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources
and Library Standards and Linked data [CONTINUES] [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05
<scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could
contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section
[CONTINUES] [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06
next: separate deliverable on vocabularies and datasets
nothing new to discuss here
next: use cases (Daniel)
dvilasuero: adding comments to the clusters and use cases from
discussions
antoine: use case owners should be able to help
<edsu> kai: are you at the provenance f2f?
<kai> edsu: unfortunately not
<edsu> kai: i guess there's no mtg today?
dvilasuero: will create a new wiki page with links to use cases;
this can go into the running agenda
<kai> edsu: I don't think so
dvilasuero: could someone go through the report and give some
feedback?
<emma> I'd like to do it, but I'm not sure I'll make it by july 22
antoine: best not to wait until end of comment period -- there won't
be much time to do the edits at that point
maybe ask on the list?
<emma> ok so put me an action ;-)
<dvilasuero> thanks, karen maybe I could ask more explictly as I
have already done but in other review emails
<scribe> ACTION: Emma to review use cases and make comments
[recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07
<dvilasuero> thanks a lot emma!!
kcoyle: executive summary?
antoine: no one yet assigned to work on this. Should be done at the
very end
<scribe> ACTION: chairs to send email to list asking for volunteers
to write the executive summary [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08
<digikim_> thanks
<dvilasuero> thanks!
<kefo> bye
<dvilasuero> bye
<jneubert> bye
meeting adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: chairs to send email to list asking for volunteers to
write the executive summary [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Daniel to keep track of comments from July 23-July 30
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Emma to review use cases and make comments [recorded
in [25]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Karen and Emma to write a sentence adding cultural and
memory institutions together in some way [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Karen will convene issues and recommendations group to
identify things that need to be discussed with larger group for July
21 meeting [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08
[24] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02
[25] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07
[26] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03
[27] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04
[PENDING] ACTION:Editors of each section should watch for
substantial comments to their section [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION:Jeff to keep track of comments on the mailing list
between July 15 and July 22 [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION:Karen Coyle to keep track of comments on the
mailing list between July 8 and July 15 [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources
and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could
contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06
[29] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05
[30] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04
[31] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05
[32] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06
[DONE] ACTION: Monica to keep track of comments between July 1 and
July 8 [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01
[End of minutes]
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