- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:49:21 -0700
- To: "public-xg-lld@w3.org" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Linked from: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html - kc [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ LLD XG 07 Jul 2011 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jul/0002.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-irc Attendees Present emma, pmurray, lai, antoine, kcoyle, edsu, jneubert, digikim, dvilasuero, kefo Regrets Tom, Jodi, Lars, Uldis, Jeff, Monica, ross, Jon, Gordon, William, Ray Chair Emma, Antoine Scribe Karen Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Admin minutes of previous telecon 2. [6]final report * [7]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <emma> Previous: 2011-06-30 [8]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/30-lld-minut es.html [8] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html <AlexanderH> Hi Emma, I only can follow via IRC today <emma> Hi Alex, thanks for being online anyway ! <lai> hmm, a typo in my name ;-) <digikim_> ARGH... how can it be that skype always wants to install something when I'm in a hurry <kai> @digikim: Dialing in with google talk is for free and works very good <dvilasuero> Hi, again having problems with my ip call <dvilasuero> thanks antoine <antoine> Scribe: Karen <antoine> Scribenick: kcoyle ADMIN: minutes of previous telecon <emma> Chair: Antoine RESOLVED: accept minutes of previous teleconference No call next week; next call 21 July Final Report <antoine> [9]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists [9] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Dissemination_Lists calls have been sent to most/all lists in link digress.it plugin is installed, there are a few issues connecting <antoine> [10]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAss ignments [10] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportReviewerAssignments keeping track of comments and reviews volunteers are keeping track of comments on the page <scribe> ACTION: Monica to keep track of comments between July 1 and July 8 [DONE] [recorded in [11]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01] [11] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01 <edsu> nice work on the blog btw, [12]http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/, i totally missed that it got done [12] http://blogs.ukoln.ac.uk/w3clld/ Next, kcoyle for the next week, and then Jeff for the following week <scribe> ACTION: dvilasuero to keep track of comments from July 23-July 30 [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02] [13] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02 <emma> Kcoyle: section "scope of this report not commented" <edsu> kcoyle: i don't recall comments about that, other than we should be talking about memory institutions and not cultural institutions, which should be included in the scope <emma> ... need to take into account general comments There has been a comment that we should use 'memory institutions' rather than 'cultural institutions' <edsu> antoine: do you think we need to mention non-rdf linked data? <antoine> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Li nked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report [14] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Benefits#.22Library_Linked_Data.22:_Scope_of_this_report <edsu> kcoyle: i think we could say it *generally* uses rdf, rather than it *does* use rdf <edsu> antoine: ok, i think that was included <edsu> kcoyle: we could say library linked data is any library data that is expressed as linked data <emma> +1 <dvilasuero> +1 <edsu> antoine: perhaps nuancing the rdf stuff, or removing it all together <edsu> kcoyle: yeah, i can fit that in there scribe: LLD = any library data expressed as linked data <emma> [15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0085.h tml [15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jun/0085.html mentions research use of data <edsu> kcoyle: this is the type of use case that makes me uneasy about using 'memory institutions' <emma> Dikson's review proposes a specific use case on researchers publishing their data and model as well as their papers <edsu> kcoyle: the emphasis is on keeping an archive, whereas current uses seem to be really important ... not so much about access to archives <emma> I'm wondering if it fits in "benefits" or elsewhere in the report <edsu> antoine: perhaps if we just say they are sometimes called 'memory institutions' that will do the trick <edsu> kcoyle: they 'function' as memory institions, but that's not all they do emma: cultural organization is more neutral and broader; memory institution seems limited to archiving <kai> +1 for cultural institution <dvilasuero> +1 kcoyle they could function as memory institutions <antoine> +1 for cultural emma: include definition of memory and cultural in the scope statement <emma> +1 for cultural, could function as memory institutions edsu: memory institution is more inclusive of the sciences; cultural feels more like history, literature, art (humanities) <dvilasuero> +1 edsu, memory is more inclusive edsu: there is also short-term memory <kai> we should define it anyway. cultural could also be something like theatre. memory is only one aspect for me, access would be another. antoine: define them together in scope <emma> I just recorded a comment on the blog ;-) <emma> will need to be turned into a sentence i can try to write a sentence <emma> ok ok <scribe> ACTION: Karen and Emma to write a sentence adding cultural and memory institutions together in some way [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03] [16] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03 Dickson's comment about using research data <dvilasuero> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Citation_of_S cientific_Datasets [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Citation_of_Scientific_Datasets dvilasuero: there are some use cases talking about research and scientific data sets antoine: issue of scope - not sure we should say that libraries should be curators of scientific data emma: this is a scope issue - it is a benefit of LLD to link to scientific and research data <edsu> emma: +1 <edsu> i don't think libraries are the only players in library linked data antoine: this makes a connection between libraries and research data, but doesn't say that libraries need to manage the data emma: will add a sentence antoine: and make a link to the citation use case; try to relate to use cases elsewhere also <dvilasuero> emma if you need a more comprehensive list of research data use cases just let me know antoine: section on available vocabularies and data sets ... some editorial comments have been received; also question of division between vocabularies and data sets ... we already have discussed that ... value vocabs are datasets with a specific function <edsu> kcoyle: i think even we find this to be ambiguous, i thought that we covered it in our wording, but if we acknowledge there is ambiguity then I think that takes care of it antoine: wording needs to be more explicit ... we agree that the definitions are not fixed but may depend on context or use relevant technologies section: Jeff has made changes based on Jon's comments next: implementation challenges both issues and recommendations sections will have many comments <scribe> ACTION: Karen will convene issues and recommendations group to identify things that need to be discussed with larger group for July 21 meeting [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04] [18] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04 <scribe> ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources and Library Standards and Linked data [CONTINUES] [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05] [19] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05 <scribe> ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section [CONTINUES] [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06] [20] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06 next: separate deliverable on vocabularies and datasets nothing new to discuss here next: use cases (Daniel) dvilasuero: adding comments to the clusters and use cases from discussions antoine: use case owners should be able to help <edsu> kai: are you at the provenance f2f? <kai> edsu: unfortunately not <edsu> kai: i guess there's no mtg today? dvilasuero: will create a new wiki page with links to use cases; this can go into the running agenda <kai> edsu: I don't think so dvilasuero: could someone go through the report and give some feedback? <emma> I'd like to do it, but I'm not sure I'll make it by july 22 antoine: best not to wait until end of comment period -- there won't be much time to do the edits at that point maybe ask on the list? <emma> ok so put me an action ;-) <dvilasuero> thanks, karen maybe I could ask more explictly as I have already done but in other review emails <scribe> ACTION: Emma to review use cases and make comments [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07] [21] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07 <dvilasuero> thanks a lot emma!! kcoyle: executive summary? antoine: no one yet assigned to work on this. Should be done at the very end <scribe> ACTION: chairs to send email to list asking for volunteers to write the executive summary [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08] [22] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08 <digikim_> thanks <dvilasuero> thanks! <kefo> bye <dvilasuero> bye <jneubert> bye meeting adjourned Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: chairs to send email to list asking for volunteers to write the executive summary [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08] [NEW] ACTION: Daniel to keep track of comments from July 23-July 30 [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Emma to review use cases and make comments [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: Karen and Emma to write a sentence adding cultural and memory institutions together in some way [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Karen will convene issues and recommendations group to identify things that need to be discussed with larger group for July 21 meeting [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04] [23] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action08 [24] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action02 [25] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action07 [26] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action03 [27] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action04 [PENDING] ACTION:Editors of each section should watch for substantial comments to their section [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION:Jeff to keep track of comments on the mailing list between July 15 and July 22 [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] ACTION:Karen Coyle to keep track of comments on the mailing list between July 8 and July 15 [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Karen and Antoine to relate Library Data Resources and Library Standards and Linked data [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] ACTION: Tom to ask Dickson and Guenther if they could contribute curriculum issues to the Recommendations Section [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06] [28] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action06 [29] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action05 [30] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-lld-minutes.html#action04 [31] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action05 [32] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action06 [DONE] ACTION: Monica to keep track of comments between July 1 and July 8 [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01] [33] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-lld-minutes.html#action01 [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [34]scribe.perl version 1.136 ([35]CVS log) $Date: 2011/07/07 20:52:11 $ [34] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [35] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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