- From: Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:54:29 +0100
- To: "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Cc: <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Dear Karen,
[snip]
>
> > I'm willing to believe that most records _do_ have a single
> > focus, but administrative data is a good example. I took
> > a few minutes to look up some examples of library records,
> > and the first one I saw had information along the lines of:
> >
> > Berlin: Springer Verlag, 1992.
> >
> > ...which I would be more inclined to translate into triples as:
> >
> > :X dct:date "1992"
> > :X dct:publisher :Y
> > :Y ex:name "Springer Verlag"
> > :Y ex:location "Berlin"
> >
> > ...rather than as, say:
> >
> > :X dct:date "1992"
> > :X dct:publisher "Springer Verlag"
> > :X ex:publisherlocation "Berlin"
> >
> > ...where "Berlin" is directly an attribute of resource "W" --
> > which, among other things, would lose the relationship between
> > "Berlin" and "Springer Verlag".
>
> In fact, library data does a terrible job with publishers in general.
> The publisher datum is not a reference to a corporate entity that is a
> publisher, it is a transcription of the name of the publisher from the
> title page and in no way is intended to link to an entity. Ditto the
> place. That's in essence a quote from the title page. Oftentimes (and
> I just had a discussion about this on some list and I am totally
> losing track anymore) what is on the title page is not the publisher
> but the imprint ("Penguin Classics"). In that case, that is what you
> will find in the bibliographic record. This datum should not be called
> "Publisher" at all, but that's the shorthand that is used.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprint
>
> illustrates some of the difficulty of deciding what is a publisher.
>
> But in any case, the actual message is:
>
> This book has "Springer Verlag" on its title page.
> This book has "1992" on its title page
> This book has "Berlin" as the place of publication on its title page.
>
> And if you suggest, as I did on some list, that it would be a good
> idea to have a reference to the Publisher of the book, as an entity,
> you will face wrath, as I did.#
I think it's an excellent idea to have publishers as first class
entities (they really are a subset of corporate bodies, right?). When we
use RDA in the SemWeb way we'll have the possibility to link publisher
to a corporate body, or am I mistaken?
All the best,
Lars
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