- From: Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:54:29 +0100
- To: "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Cc: <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
Dear Karen, [snip] > > > I'm willing to believe that most records _do_ have a single > > focus, but administrative data is a good example. I took > > a few minutes to look up some examples of library records, > > and the first one I saw had information along the lines of: > > > > Berlin: Springer Verlag, 1992. > > > > ...which I would be more inclined to translate into triples as: > > > > :X dct:date "1992" > > :X dct:publisher :Y > > :Y ex:name "Springer Verlag" > > :Y ex:location "Berlin" > > > > ...rather than as, say: > > > > :X dct:date "1992" > > :X dct:publisher "Springer Verlag" > > :X ex:publisherlocation "Berlin" > > > > ...where "Berlin" is directly an attribute of resource "W" -- > > which, among other things, would lose the relationship between > > "Berlin" and "Springer Verlag". > > In fact, library data does a terrible job with publishers in general. > The publisher datum is not a reference to a corporate entity that is a > publisher, it is a transcription of the name of the publisher from the > title page and in no way is intended to link to an entity. Ditto the > place. That's in essence a quote from the title page. Oftentimes (and > I just had a discussion about this on some list and I am totally > losing track anymore) what is on the title page is not the publisher > but the imprint ("Penguin Classics"). In that case, that is what you > will find in the bibliographic record. This datum should not be called > "Publisher" at all, but that's the shorthand that is used. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprint > > illustrates some of the difficulty of deciding what is a publisher. > > But in any case, the actual message is: > > This book has "Springer Verlag" on its title page. > This book has "1992" on its title page > This book has "Berlin" as the place of publication on its title page. > > And if you suggest, as I did on some list, that it would be a good > idea to have a reference to the Publisher of the book, as an entity, > you will face wrath, as I did.# I think it's an excellent idea to have publishers as first class entities (they really are a subset of corporate bodies, right?). When we use RDA in the SemWeb way we'll have the possibility to link publisher to a corporate body, or am I mistaken? All the best, Lars
Received on Monday, 24 January 2011 10:55:04 UTC