- From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:45:48 -0500
- To: "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>, "Thomas Baker" <tbaker@tbaker.de>
- Cc: <gordon@gordondunsire.com>, "Mark van Assem" <mark@cs.vu.nl>, <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
I think the concept of "primary entity" in the UNIMARC authorities format is the clearest proof that authority records are about something sensible. I think there are glimpses of this in MARC21 authorities. I wouldn't say this proves that all records everywhere have a sensible primary entity. Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: public-xg-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-lld- > request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:59 PM > To: Thomas Baker > Cc: gordon@gordondunsire.com; Mark van Assem; public-xg-lld@w3.org > Subject: Re: vocabs, metadata set, datasets > > Quoting Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>: > > > > I see the argument but still see a problem with the notion of > > a record being "about" something. Looking at a bibliographic > > record through traditional bibliographic glasses, one does see > > a set of data elements "about" a book. Looking at that same > > record through RDF glasses, however, one may see statements > > "about" several different things -- the book, its author, > > the publisher, etc. > > As I said before, I don't see it this way. Even though RDF is much > more flexible than the old record model, it has the concept of > "subject" -- the subject of the statements, in my mind, defines the > "about". Library data contains things like author identification as an > object, but the author is a subject only in the name authority record > (or foaf Person description set). I really don't see statements about > authors, publishers, etc. in a library catalog record for a book. All > of the data there should be with the book as the subject. > > In other words, what Jeff said. > > kc > > > > > The DCMI Abstract Model tried to express this point by > > distinguishing between a Description (a set of statements > > about just one resource -- e.g., the book OR the author OR > > the publisher) and a Description Set -- a set of related > > descriptions bundled together for practical purposes in a > > single metadata "record". > > > > Yes, we need to use a terminology related as recognizably as > > possible to things already familiar to the intended reader, > > but we also need to point out to readers where perspectives > > differ. On this point, I suggest we find a way to say > > that "records" may provide descriptive statements "about" > > more than one something. > > > > Tom > > > > -- > > Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de> > > > > > > > > -- > Karen Coyle > kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet > >
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