- From: Monica Duke <m.duke@ukoln.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:48:54 +0100
- To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- CC: "public-xg-lld@w3.org" <public-xg-lld@w3.org>
I tried to send my late regrets for yesterday but in trying to do that in a rush I got caught by the 'reply to sender only' default, and only sent the message to Tod. Please accept late apologies for not attending yesterday's meeting. Regards, Monica Antoine Isaac wrote: > > >> The minutes of today's meeting will be available at >> http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-lld-minutes.html > > Unfortunately I can't edit that one :-) > The minutes are at > http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/14-lld-minutes.html > > Thanks a lot, Wolfgang! > > Antoine > > >> >> Text version below. >> >> Cheers, >> Wolfgang >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> [1]W3C >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/ >> >> LLD XG >> >> 14 Oct 2010 >> >> [2]Agenda >> >> [2] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Oct/0052.html >> >> See also: [3]IRC log >> >> [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/10/14-lld-irc >> >> Attendees >> >> Present >> Thomas Baker (TomB), Anette Seiler (aseiler), Jeff Young >> (jeff_), Jodi Schneider (jodi), Martin Malmsten (marma), Alexander >> Haffner (AlexanderH), Felix Sasaki (Felix), Gordon Dunsire (GordonD), >> Ross Singer (rsinger), Wolfgang Halb (whalb), Peter Murray (pmurray), >> Jonathan Rees (jar), Kai Eckert (kai), Ray Denenberg (Ray), Karen >> Coyle (kcoyle), Kevin Ford (kefo), Asaf Bartov (Asaf), Bernard Vatant >> (bvatant), Kim Viljanen (digikim), Michael Panzer (michaelp) >> >> Regrets >> Emmanuelle, Antoine, Lars >> >> Chair >> Tom >> >> Scribe >> whalb >> >> Contents >> >> * [4]Topics >> 1. [5]admin >> 2. [6]Pittsburgh face-to-face meetings >> 3. [7]Use cases and case studies >> 4. [8]Other Wiki pages for capturing relevant links and ideas >> 5. [9]Upcoming topics - FYI... >> 6. [10]Upcoming face-to-face meetings >> 7. [11]aob >> * [12]Summary of Action Items >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> <TomB> Previous: >> [13]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minu >> tes.html >> >> [13] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minutes.html >> >> <marka> same here, phone troubles >> >> <kcoyle> karen >> >> <TomB> Scribe: whalb >> >> <TomB> Scribenick: whalb >> >> <digikim> hello >> >> <ww> all circuits busy on the uk dialin number :( >> >> tomb: important thing is to make sure agenda is ok >> >> <digikim> digikim calling >> >> <digikim> (is zakim awake?) >> >> admin >> >> proposal: accept minutes of last telco >> [14]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minu >> tes.html >> >> [14] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minutes.html >> >> resolved: accept minutes of previous telco >> >> Pittsburgh face-to-face meetings >> >> tomb: two meetings, one friday afternoon about application profiles >> ... main meeting on saturday and half of sunday >> ... for the meeting on friday preparation: >> [15]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/JointMeeting2010 >> ... content will change until tomorrow >> >> [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/JointMeeting2010 >> >> marcia: will put a link to current model >> >> tomb: meeting on saturday, required reading is charter >> ... use cases: >> ... there is a list of background, topic list, how use cases relate >> to topics >> ... most people will present one use case, a few will have to >> present more >> ... people please add names to use cases in brackets >> >> <marma> Got disconnected >> >> <TomB> >> [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Oct/0058.html >> >> [16] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Oct/0058.html >> >> <TomB> >> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Citation_of_S >> cientific_Datasets >> >> [17] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Citation_of_Scientific_Datasets >> >> >> <TomB> >> [18]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Enhanced_Publ >> ications >> >> [18] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Enhanced_Publications >> >> tomb: we dont have to assign namens right now to new use cases >> ... but we need at least one member per use case, each f2f attendant >> assigned to at least one use case >> ... use case assignment is to read use case description and prepare >> for discussion >> ... everybody should sign up for at least one use case (to lead >> discussion) >> ... maybe prepare some bullet points for driving discussion in the >> right direction >> >> <Abartov> +q use case owners >> >> <michaelp> I would be happy to lead discussion for Authority date >> enrichment >> >> <jeff_> >> [19]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F_Pittsburgh#Use_cas >> e_discussion_9:00-10:30_.2B_11:00-12:30 >> >> [19] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F_Pittsburgh#Use_case_discussion_9:00-10:30_.2B_11:00-12:30 >> >> >> <pmurray> I picked up the NDNP use case on the F2F agenda. >> >> tomb: will send out a reminder to list of use cases are still not >> covered tomorrow >> >> <GordonD> All note: list of assigned rapporteurs has changed >> significantly since this agenda was prepared! >> >> tomb: there is quite some background reading, it is not necesary to >> read everything in detail >> >> <marcia> Will the case presented in this order as listed, or in >> 'related' groups? >> >> tomb: we have to keep in mind that there are only 7 months left for >> the xg >> >> <Abartov> (remember: some UC owners can't make it to the F2F, but >> would be very happy to answer questions before and even during the >> F2F, remotely) >> >> <marcia> +q >> >> <jodi> marcia: IMO, 'related' would be nice, if it's obvious what's >> related to what. >> >> tomb: we should be able to define what we want to achieve in the >> remaining 7 months >> >> <jodi> y >> >> <jeff_> y >> >> <michaelp> y >> >> <kcoyle> yep >> >> <rsinger> well, i am >> >> <kefo> yes >> >> tomb: we should sort out what is achievable >> >> <bvatant> yes we are >> >> <marma> y >> >> <marcia> +q >> >> <digikim> :) >> >> Use cases and case studies >> >> tomb: going through actions... >> >> kcoyle: regarding action01 - we have done what can be done before >> the meeting >> ... action will be continued >> >> rayd: question regarding friday meeting: if someone not registered >> for dc meeting will she/he have to pay? >> >> <GordonD> May depend on venue security? >> >> tomb: theoretically should be registered, in practice dont know >> >> marcia: can ask dc committee if it is ok for unregistered >> participants >> ... how many minutes should be taken for each case, what order of >> presentation? >> >> tomb: would be good idea to group the use cases >> ... we dont need to sort that out today but we should start grouping >> and do it over the coming week >> >> <GordonD> +1 Tom's suggestion >> >> kcoyle: we need to look at topic list >> >> <GordonD> Suggest a pragmatic approach and finalise groupings just >> before meeting >> >> <markva> I understood it was necessary and registered... >> >> tomb: regarding action03 i suggest that we carry that action forward >> as use cases keep coming in >> >> <scribe> ACTION: emma, kcoyle, GordonD, Marcia, bvatant to structure >> the discussion of use cases in light of the topic list [recorded in >> [20]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/23-lld-minu >> tes.html#action01] [CONTINUES] [CONTINUES] >> >> [20] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/23-lld-minutes.html#action01 >> >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Use-case owner(s) to check table and matches >> [recorded in >> [21]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/30-lld-minu >> tes.html#action03] [CONTINUES] >> >> [21] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/30-lld-minutes.html#action03 >> >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Karen to add short names to the topics page >> [recorded in >> [22]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minu >> tes.html#action09] [CONTINUES] >> >> [22] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minutes.html#action09 >> >> >> <Abartov> "champions" :) >> >> <GordonD> De facto word for uc presenters is Presenter >> >> Other Wiki pages for capturing relevant links and ideas >> >> <rsinger> >> [23]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Library_data_in_Semantic_Web_form >> ats >> >> [23] >> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Library_data_in_Semantic_Web_formats >> >> <jodi> in general, I prefer using the world-writable wiki >> >> <rayd> +q >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Participants to volunteer as use case 'shepherds' >> by signing their names in >> [24]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F_Pittsburgh#Use_cas >> e_discussion_9:00-10:30_.2B_11:00-12:30 [recorded in >> [25]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minu >> tes.html#action08] [CONTINUES] >> >> [24] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F_Pittsburgh#Use_case_discussion_9:00-10:30_.2B_11:00-12:30 >> >> [25] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minutes.html#action08 >> >> >> <jodi> yes, let's make a template :) >> >> <kcoyle> agree >> >> <Abartov> Are you proposing to begin collecting ontologies and >> vocabularies for LLD? >> >> <rsinger> no, datasets >> >> <Abartov> rsinger: oh, I see. thanks. >> >> Upcoming topics - FYI... >> >> tomb: nothing to discuss atm >> >> Upcoming face-to-face meetings >> >> tomb: reminder for meeting >> >> aob >> >> <Abartov> +q >> >> <marma> We're having trouble with the phones at KB. Will follow IRC. >> Sorry. >> >> tomb: hotel is in transition from hilton to new management, link has >> been posted to list >> ... if anyone is concerned about reservation you can call the hotel >> to check >> ... hotel is trying to make transition as smooth as possible >> >> <GordonD> All: looking forward to seeing most of you next week! >> >> tomb: looking forward to meeting participants at conference >> ... there will be no call next week >> ... irc will be used for friday afternoon meeting >> ... remote participants are welcome >> ... on saturday zakim and irc will also be used and remote >> participants are invited to join by voice or irc >> >> <Abartov> -q >> >> tomb: on sunday no zakim will be used because of the costs (no >> sponsor for wifi) >> ... notes will be taken >> >> <jar_> I recommend someone bring an access point anyhow >> >> <jar_> even if no Internet, you can use it for file transfer, local >> web servers etc >> >> <jodi> bye >> >> tomb: look forward to meeting at f2f and in 2 weeks at next call >> >> <jar_> sorry I won't be there >> >> <bvatant> bye >> >> <marcia> have a good trip, all >> >> <rsinger> bye! >> >> <AlexanderH> thx bye >> >> <kefo> bye >> >> <aseiler> bye >> >> <digikim> thanks >> >> [adjourned] >> >> <markva> sorry I wasnt on the phone, VU phone central not working... >> >> Summary of Action Items >> >> [PENDING] ACTION: emma, kcoyle, GordonD, Marcia, bvatant to >> structure the discussion of use cases in light of the topic list >> [recorded in >> [26]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/23-lld-minu >> tes.html#action01] >> [PENDING] ACTION: Karen to add short names to the topics page >> [recorded in >> [27]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minu >> tes.html#action09] >> [PENDING] ACTION: Participants to volunteer as use case 'shepherds' >> by signing their names in >> [28]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F_Pittsburgh#Use_cas >> e_discussion_9:00-10:30_.2B_11:00-12:30 [recorded in >> [29]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minu >> tes.html#action08] >> [PENDING] ACTION: Use-case owner(s) to check table and matches >> [recorded in >> [30]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/30-lld-minu >> tes.html#action03] >> [DONE] ACTION: Topic owners to check table and think about >> supplying additional use-cases >> [recorded in >> [31]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/30-lld-minu >> tes.html#action04] >> >> >> [26] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/23-lld-minutes.html#action01 >> >> [27] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minutes.html#action09 >> >> [28] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F_Pittsburgh#Use_case_discussion_9:00-10:30_.2B_11:00-12:30 >> >> [29] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/07-lld-minutes.html#action08 >> >> [30] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/30-lld-minutes.html#action03 >> >> [31] >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/30-lld-minutes.html#action04 >> >> >> [End of minutes] >> >> >> > > >
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