- From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:41:36 -0700
- To: david.bolter@gmail.com
- Cc: bringert@google.com, marc.schroeder@dfki.de, public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org
TTS is *definitely* in scope.
David Bolter writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I am actually more interested in TTS than speech recogntion however I
> wasn't aware TTS is in scope for this group? Perhaps Dan can clarify.
>
> cheers,
> David
>
> On 09/09/10 11:56 AM, Bjorn Bringert wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Marc Schroeder<marc.schroeder@dfki.de> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> let me try and bring the TTS topic into the discussion.
> >>
> >> I am the core developer of DFKI's open source MARY TTS platform
> >> http://mary.dfki.de/, written in pure Java. Our TTS server provides an HTTP
> >> based interface with a simple AJAX user frontend (which you can try at
> >> http://mary.dfki.de:59125/); we are currently sending synthesis results via
> >> a GET request into an HTML 5<audio> tag, which works (in Firefox 3.5+) but
> >> seems suboptimal in some ways.
> > I was just going to send out this TTS proposal:
> > http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcfg79pz_4gnmp96cz
> >
> > The basic idea is to add a<tts> element which extends
> > HTMLMediaElement (like<audio> and<video> do). I think that it
> > addresses most of the points that you bring up, see below.
> >
> >
> >> I think<audio> is suboptimal even for server-side TTS, for the following
> >> reasons/requirements:
> >>
> >> *<audio> provides no temporal structure of the synthesised speech. One
> >> feature that you often need is to know the time at which a given word is
> >> spoken, e.g.,
> >> - to highlight the word in a visual rendition of the speech;
> >> - to synchronize with other modalities in a multimodal presentation (think
> >> of an arrow appearing in a picture when a deictic is used -- "THIS person",
> >> or of a talking head, or gesture animation in avatars);
> >> - to know when to interrupt (you might not want to cut off the speech in
> >> the middle of a sentence)
> > The web app is notified when SSML<mark> events are reached (using the
> > HTMLMediaElement timeupdate event).
> >
> >
> >> * For longer stretches of spoken output, it is not obvious to me how to do
> >> "streaming" with an<audio> tag. Let's say a TTS can process one sentence at
> >> a time, and is requested to read an email consisting of three paragraphs. At
> >> the moment we would have to render the full email on the server before
> >> sending the result, which prolongs time-to-audio much more than necessary,
> >> for a simple transport/scheduling reason: IIRC, we need to indicate the
> >> Content-Length when sending the response, or else the audio wouldn't be
> >> played...
> > While this is outside the scope of the proposal (since the proposal
> > doesn't specify how the browser talks to the synthesizer), streaming
> > from a server-side synthesizer can be done with chunked transfer
> > encoding.
> >
> >
> >> * There are certain properties of speech output that could be provided in an
> >> API, such as gender of the voice, language of the text to be spoken,
> >> preferred pronounciations, etc. -- of course SSML comes to mind
> >> (http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-synthesis11/ -- congratulations for reaching
> >> Recommendation status, Dan!)
> > SSML documents can be used as the source in<tts>, so all these
> > parameters are supported.
> >
> >
> >> BTW, I have seen a number of emails on the whatwg list and here taking an a
> >> priori stance regarding the question whether ASR (and TTS) would happen in
> >> the browser ("user agent", you guys seem to call it) or on the server. I
> >> don't think the choice is a priori clear, I am sure there are good use cases
> >> for either choice. The question is whether there is a way to cater for both
> >> in an HTML speech API...
> > The proposal leaves the choice of client or server synthesis
> > completely up to the browser. The web app just provides the text or
> > SSML to synthesize. The browser may even use both client- and
> > server-side synthesis, for example using a server-side synthesizer for
> > languages that the client-side one doesn't support, or using a simple
> > client-side synthesizer as a fallback if the network connection fails.
> >
> >
>
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