- From: Guido Vetere <gvetere@it.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:16:11 +0100
- To: "Mandana" <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca>
- Cc: paola.dimaio@gmail.com, "'public-xg-eiif'" <public-xg-eiif@w3.org>, public-xg-eiif-request@w3.org
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Mandana,
please find attached my suggested model for the notion of 'resource'. Note
that the current model formally means that every Person, Fund, and
Equipment is a Resource, which is false.
Cordiali Saluti, Best Regards,
Guido Vetere
Manager & Research Coordinator, IBM Center for Advanced Studies Rome
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"Mandana" <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca>
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RE: em shared vocabulary
Model and the description were modified a while back (attached). Renato is
going to incorporate them in the draft for your review. ?Resource? is
modeled a bit differently now. See if it better serves the prupose.
Regards,
Mandana
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Subject: Re: em shared vocabulary
Thanks a lot Guido
what I am trying to do here (purely from my vocabulary viewpoint) is to
reconcile the ontological process aimed to conceptualize/abstract the EM
scenarios (which are very important, and so far DOLCE seems to have done
very well), with the real world expectation fo someone who is bleeding to
death and needs unambiguous commitment of a specific resource NOW!
>From that point of view , 'Service as a ?promise?, i.e., roughly, a
description of a commitment' may not be enough, as would expect 'an
ambulance service to be delivered within the shoftest possible time after
the 999 call, and not roughly whenever it becomes available, for example.
Capisci?
Not that I have a clue as to how to do that..... but at least we are
making a start eh?
more questions follow
PDM
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Guido Vetere <gvetere@it.ibm.com> wrote:
Paola, as I said, I would model Resource as a Relational role.
Syntactically, it could be an OWL Property whose domain is Service
(whatever it is) and whose range is defined on the union of Person and
Artefact (and Funds?). Of course, if you want, you can also draw a
specific Class to represent that range, however this would have no formal
import.
As for Service, please consider that the idea of splitting the class
(concrete process and its description) is mine, and has nothing to do with
DOLCE itself. By the way, I was with Nicola Guarino at a conference last
week; he said that a Service is a ?promise?, i.e., roughly, a description
of a commitment.
Cordiali Saluti, Best Regards,
Guido Vetere
Manager & Research Coordinator, IBM Center for Advanced Studies Rome
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Re: em shared vocabulary
Just to reiterate this point below (rubbing it in actually)
that the relationship between capability and resource is inextricable in
operations
I get an excerpt from one of our current working documents pasted below,
which seems to be in contradiction with the
DOLCE analysis (contained in the same document)
in the WHO section it says:
* Capability Properties: WorkingSector (to specify the nature of
services that can be provided), resource
* Relationship with: Resource
Resource represents tangible items and people that are used to respond to
an incident.
* Resource Properties: Equipment (vehicles, communication facilities,
etc.), People (human force), Fund (any financial support), Supplies
* Relationship with: locationInformation (to trace the resources in
emergency operations)
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:12 PM, <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
I am finally jotting down some definitions of the terms used in the
framework document/diagram, to append to the final report, and as the
basis for shared vocabulary work among different teams. I face a series of
disparate and difficult issues, I may follow up with a few emails to
request inputs on specifics
This is forcing me to take a closer look at the latest version of the
draft,
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/XGR-framework-20090220/
and I have some questions/comments that come up
I am looking at some of the notes regarding the DOLCE conceptualization
of our framework, and I wonder how much of these notes should be reflected
in our vocabulary, and how much should not be (whereby the description of
the conceptualization is not relevant to the actual meaning of the term)
for example
re. DOLCE definitions
ServiceService, in a concrete sense, can be seen as a Process, i.e. a
perdurant (event) whose temporal parts may have different qualities (e.g.
agreement, delivery, and conclusion). By looking at the attributes of the
W3 class, however, it seems that the concept aims at modelling abstract
and informative qualities such as Title and Description. To represent both
informative properties and spatial-temporal ones under DOLCE?s
conceptualization, Service might be split in two different classes:
?ServiceDescription? (InformationObject) and ?ServiceProcess? representing
the concrete processes of service?s execution.
I dont understand what ;'service' stands for , can someone provide some
examples? for me service is the provision of a resource, or a capability
is that something else? is it intended as 'emergency service is the
provision of emergency supplies?'
Capability
Capability is used in W3 for representing the kind of actions Persons and
Organization should be able to perform. This should be represented in
DOLCE by an AbstractQuality (qualities inherent in non-physical endurants)
whose value should range over a suitable abstract region, to be
introduced. According to DOLCE, however, this would limit the ascription
of (instances of) this class to non-physical endurants.
I dont' know about DOLCE, but capability is the ability to provide
resource (be it material supply or service , and which requires resources
and infrastructure)
Capability is directly related to resource availability, (not sure what
you mean by 'abstract' here)
cf.:
Originally a military term which includes the aspects of personnel,
equipment, training, planning and operational doctrine. Now used to mean a
demonstrable capacity or ability to respond to and recover from a
particular threat or hazard.
www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/more_info/glossary.shtm
Resource
It is not immediately clear what Resource could be in terms of DOLCE
categories. The class looks like the union of three other classes
Equipment, People, and Fund. Intuitively, Resource stands for any concrete
thing that can be instrumental to the process of delivering a Service. It
is questionable, however, whether a specific class is really needed here.
Again, I dont know from the ontologist viewpoint, but from the operational
viewpoint, resource is essential to the supply process,
I cannot see how we can get away with modelling/representing it
he 'categorization' of resources depends on the approach, they can be
grouped according to the functional/operational role (say medical resource
versus transport) or material (medicine, food,) vs intangible (know how,
skills, knowledge, experience, competence) and so on,
But it needs to be represented in any lexical, semantic and ontological
schema that revolves around the supply of resources (or please explain
otherwise)
cheers
PDM
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