Re: em shared vocabulary

Thanks a lot Guido

what I am trying to do here (purely from my vocabulary viewpoint) is to
reconcile the ontological process  aimed to conceptualize/abstract the  EM
scenarios (which are very important, and so far DOLCE seems to have done
very well), with the real world expectation fo someone who is bleeding to
death and needs unambiguous commitment of a specific resource NOW!

>From  that point of view , 'Service as a ‘promise’, i.e., roughly, a
description of a commitment'  may not be enough, as would expect 'an
ambulance service to be delivered within the shoftest possible time after
the 999 call, and not roughly whenever it becomes available, for example.

Capisci?

Not that I have a clue as to how to do that..... but at least we are making
a start eh?

more questions follow

PDM


On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Guido Vetere <gvetere@it.ibm.com> wrote:

>
> Paola, as I said, I would model Resource as a Relational role.
> Syntactically, it could be an OWL Property whose domain is Service (whatever
> it is) and whose range is defined on the union of Person and Artefact (and
> Funds?). Of course, if you want, you can also draw a specific Class to
> represent that range, however this would have no formal import.
> As for Service, please consider that the idea of splitting the class
> (concrete process and its description) is mine, and has nothing to do with
> DOLCE itself. By the way, I was with Nicola Guarino at a conference last
> week; he said that a Service is a ‘promise’, i.e., roughly, a description of
> a commitment.
>
> Cordiali Saluti, Best Regards,
>
> Guido Vetere
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>
> Just to reiterate this point below  (rubbing it in actually)
> that the relationship between capability and resource is inextricable in
> operations
>
> I get an excerpt from one of our current working documents pasted below,
> which seems to be in contradiction with the
> DOLCE  analysis (contained in the same document)
>
> in the WHO section it says:
>
>     * Capability Properties: WorkingSector (to specify the nature of
> services that can be provided), resource
>     * Relationship with: Resource
>
> Resource represents tangible items and people that are used to respond to
> an incident.
>
>     * Resource Properties: Equipment (vehicles, communication facilities,
> etc.), People (human force), Fund (any financial support), Supplies
>     * Relationship with: locationInformation (to trace the resources in
> emergency operations)
>
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:12 PM, <*paola.dimaio@gmail.com*<paola.dimaio@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> I am finally jotting down some definitions of the terms used in the
> framework document/diagram, to append to the final report, and as the basis
> for shared vocabulary work among different teams. I face a series of
> disparate and difficult issues, I may follow up with a few emails to request
> inputs on specifics
>
> This is forcing me to take a closer look at the latest version of the
> draft, *
> **http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/XGR-framework-20090220/*<http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/XGR-framework-20090220/>
>
> and I have some questions/comments that come up
>
>  I am looking at some of the notes regarding the DOLCE conceptualization of
> our framework, and I wonder how much of these notes should be reflected in
> our vocabulary, and how much should not be (whereby the description of the
> conceptualization is not relevant to the actual meaning of the term)
>
> for example
>
>
> re. DOLCE definitions
> *ServiceService, in a concrete sense, can be seen as a Process, i.e. a
> perdurant (event) whose temporal parts may have different qualities (e.g.
> agreement, delivery, and conclusion). By looking at the attributes of the W3
> class, however, it seems that the concept aims at modelling abstract and
> informative qualities such as Title and Description. To represent both
> informative properties and spatial-temporal ones under DOLCE’s
> conceptualization, Service might be split in two different classes:
> “ServiceDescription” (InformationObject) and “ServiceProcess” representing
> the concrete processes of service’s execution. *
>
> I dont understand what ;'service' stands for , can someone provide some
> examples?  for me service is the provision of a resource, or a capability
> is that something else?  is it intended as 'emergency service is the
> provision of emergency supplies?'
>
>
> *Capability*
>
> *Capability is used in W3 for representing the kind of actions Persons and
> Organization should be able to perform. This should be represented in DOLCE
> by an AbstractQuality (qualities inherent in non-physical endurants) whose
> value should range over a suitable abstract region, to be introduced.
> According to DOLCE, however, this would limit the ascription of (instances
> of) this class to non-physical endurants.*
>
> I dont' know about DOLCE, but capability is the ability to provide resource
> (be it material supply or service , and which requires resources and
> infrastructure)
>
> Capability is directly related to resource availability, (not sure what you
> mean by 'abstract' here)
>
> cf.:
>
> Originally a military term which includes the aspects of personnel,
> equipment, training, planning and operational doctrine. Now used to mean a
> demonstrable capacity or ability to respond to and recover from a particular
> threat or hazard.*
> **www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/more_info/glossary.shtm*<http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=X&start=6&oi=define&ei=-TnJSdTMOpDDjAe67f3FAw&sig2=JUYJ1Hbt3NQwnpZdwiAY7w&q=http://www.preparingforemergencies.gov.uk/more_info/glossary.shtm&usg=AFQjCNEk-oSR1nhceJFTRxg3lhfyuB-Apw>
>
>
> *Resource*
>
> *It is not immediately clear what Resource could be in terms of DOLCE
> categories. The class looks like the union of three other classes Equipment,
> People, and Fund. Intuitively, Resource stands for any concrete thing that
> can be instrumental to the process of delivering a Service. It is
> questionable, however, whether a specific class is really needed here. *
>
> Again, I dont know from the ontologist viewpoint, but from the operational
> viewpoint, resource is essential to the supply process,
>
> I cannot see how we can get away with modelling/representing it
>
> he 'categorization' of resources depends on the approach, they can be
> grouped according to the functional/operational role (say medical resource
> versus transport)  or material (medicine, food,) vs  intangible (know how,
> skills, knowledge, experience, competence) and so on,
>
> But it needs to be represented in any lexical, semantic and ontological
> schema that revolves around the supply of resources  (or please explain
> otherwise)
>
> cheers
>
> PDM
>
>
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