Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard (new proposed schema attached)

Dear Mandana,

The physical entity of an organization (offices) are used more with
relation to contacts rather than activities.   As far as activities are
concerned we  are generally interested in where the activity is happening
rather than the physical location of the organization that is executing it.
I hope this clarifies how we use and structured the 3W. Please let us know
if you have any questions or need any clarifications on OCHA's 3W.

Best Regards,

Paolo
(See attached file: 3w_DB_Schema_Ver_Proposed.vsd)

Paolo Palmero
Information Management Officer (GIS)
Field Information Services Unit (AIMB)
United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA)
DC1-1358, One UN Plaza,  New York, NY 10017
Tel: +1-917-367-5424
Mobile: +1-917-349-4506
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Email: palmero@un.org
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Paola and all,

Sounds like in OCHA schema, Organization is more of a conceptual entity
than physical entity (ie physically located). Offices are the ones involved
directly in the activities and indirectly link OrgPerson to the
organization. However we should consider the situations where local
agencies help with response activities, for example, or where volunteers
are part of the task force. Offices work in general sectors (ie provide
general services) but they have specific responsibilities in the context of
a given activities. I agree that some naming don’t represent the concepts
very well. It would be more helpful, if you could be more specific. As we
get other schemas, we will refine the concepts too.

Regards,
Mandana,



From: paola.dimaio@gmail.com
Sent:. Friday, August 01, 2008 8:03 PM
To: Mandana Sotoodeh
Cc: public-xg-eiif
Subject: Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard

Mandana, Paolo

Great great thanks for starting this up, it looks like there are some
conceptual challenges ahead

I am looking at the diagram on the fly (did not study in depth), and have a
few questions

1. I can see no link between organisation and orgperson, should there be a
relationship there? I am not sure if orgperson main relation should be
office, sound weak

2. does Location not have any attributes? should there be something written
in the box

3. service links to orgperson with relationship -hasobjectives- not sure I
understand, a few other relations seem brittle

4. I wonder if there is a rule as to how to name in the singular/plural the
entities and the relationships and attributes (sing or plu, should be
constant?), as well as the choice of names for them, if should be made more
logical and consistent as much as possible
I wonder if the relationships whould have names more semantically alighed
with the entities they relate to, less ambiguous kind of thing

will study further

thanks again

best

PDM


On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Mandana Sotoodeh <mandanas@ece.ubc.ca>
wrote:
  Hello everyone,

  Please find the main concepts derived from OCHA schema here:

  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/wiki/images/7/71/W3-Model.pdf.


  Renato kindly organized them graphically.

  Paolo, thank you for providing the documents.

  Your feedback is appreciated: if you have any specific scenario in mind
  (in the boundary of W3) that you think the model may not address well;
  such as volunteers or activities for day to day emergency operations
  (like drug abuse) as opposed to emergency response (like evacuation), or
  any suggestions for naming of concepts (ex. office or emergency). As we
  get other schemas/models, we will revise it accordingly.

  Thanks very much,

  Mandana



  From: Renato Iannella
  Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:29 PM
  To: public-xg-eiif
  Cc: Vincent Lalieu
  Subject: Re: Requirement for 3W interop standard


  On 9 Jul 2008, at 18:46, Paul Currion wrote:

        The 3W / W3 schema can be found at
        http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/imtoolbox/02_Standard_Products/01_W3/3W_Tool/3wSchema2_0.pdf.


  Thanks Paul.

  This is a good opportunity to review the Use Case [1] against the OCHA
  Schema and determine any gaps.
  Then look at the outcome and move towards defining the *core8 elements of
  a W3/3W "standard".
  Any volunteers to take this on?

  Cheers...  Renato Iannella
  NICTA

  [1] <http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/eiif/wiki/WWWWCoord>




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