- From: Charles F Wiecha <wiecha@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:54:25 -0400
- To: www-forms@w3.org
- Cc: public-xg-app-backplane@w3.org
GENERAL XML Events 2 updates XML Events by transitioning to providing an XML surfacing of the DOM Level 3 underlying event API, and by adding a Handlers module where one was not provided in XML Events 1. There is some discussion as to the possibility of using XML Events 2 over the DOM Level 2 API instead and this would be of interest to flesh out to provide more guidance to implementors. The Informative introduction to the document continues to provide a loose description of the basic DOM event lifecycle -- a description which leaves too much ambiguity to be useful as it currently stands, and requires readers to delve into the underlying DOM Event Recommendations in order to really understand how things work. For example, the paragraph begining "Event flow in DOM3": capture phase processing is described as passing down the tree from the root to the target -- the underlying DOM3 description makes clear that capture phase processing ends at the target's parent element. handlers are described as being attachable to any node including root and target in "either" phase, when the target in particular participates in all three phases ("either" pertaining to a possible set of only two phases). "a handler can only listen for one phase, to listen for both..." -- again the language describing phases has not been updated from XML Events 1 adequately to reflect the "at-target" phase as a first-class part of the event lifecycle. Further more, a handler using "default" processing will listen to two phases (target and bubble) so again this language needs to be updated to reflect the more careful semantics of DOM3 phasing. likewise, the diagram implies graphically that the capture and bubble phase processes extend to the target. The DOM3 document indicates more clearly (using dashed line notation) that these phases do not include the target but terminate/originate respectively at the target's parent. CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS There is a casual comment about the draft supporting "chameleon" elements and attributes (needs reference for those unfamiliar with this pattern) -- but then comments that it's not clear what the implications are for implementors...can more be said here??? EVENTS MODULE Observer and targetid are IDREFS -- limited to the current document. Handler is a URI allowing for references to external documents. What is the rationale for treating these two cases differently? Is there an option for observer and targetid to refer to external documents? Section 3.1 on the listener element, the last paragraph of the targetid attribute mentions that the author should use observer="link1" and no taret for the desired bubbling behavior. The key aspect of the example is to drop the target, thus observer="para1" as originally coded would work in this case as well...just a bit confusing for the reader. At the end of 3.1 there is a note relating to similarities with event processing in SMIL -- which seems out of place in this document, at least where the note occurs. A more complete comparison of event lifecycles in other XML languages would indeed be of great interest, and suggestions for how to use XML Events 2 in various profiles or subsets to support them would be also great guidance for those not currently thinking in terms of XML or DOM events. HANDLERS MODULE. No comments XPath EXPRESSIONS There is an Editor's note about the need for compelling use cases for allowing context to be specified. For discussion -- we we in XForms have any such requirements? Charles Wiecha Manager, Multichannel Web Interaction IBM T.J. Watson Research Center P.O. Box 704 Yorktown Heights, N.Y. 10598 Phone: (914) 784-6180, T/L 863-6180, Cell: (914) 320-2614 wiecha@us.ibm.com
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