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Re: ACTION-2143: Spec up adding help hint alert and label to the model

From: Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:04:20 +0100
To: "Erik Bruchez" <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
Cc: "public-xformsusers@w3.org" <public-xformsusers@w3.org>, "XForms Users Community Group Issue Tracker" <sysbot+tracker@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.zago1if6smjzpq@steven-xps>
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:48:51 +0100, Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>  

> A couple of questions/issues:
> 1. Shouldn't we allow dynamic HTML (host language) values?
> It seems that right now, the values but be entirely static unless they  
> are specified as an attribute.
Currently we allow: (PCDATA|(UI Content))*

Doesn't that cover it?

> 2. "Unless otherwise stated, a control must have a label element or  
> attribute, or otherwise be bound to a node that has a label property."
> What is the consequence of not doing so?
> One issue is that, with a label in the view, you can statically tell  
> that the label is missing. (I am not sure that we say what the  
> consequence is in the case either, by the >way.)
> While with the indirection via a node binding and a MIP, it is not  
> possible to know whether the label is missing in all cases without  
> actually running the form, and that >condition can change over time, if  
> the control binds to a different node, for example.

I'm honestly not sure about whether we really need to say this. I only  
included it because it's what the current spec demands, but I'm not sure  
it's really that important.
I have forms where I have written things like

      <repeat ref="to-do-list">
          <input ref="."><label/></input>

because it was obvious from context what the inputs were for. So I don't  
really see why we can't also allow

      <repeat ref="to-do-list">
          <input ref="."/>

and make it the author's responsibility.


> -Erik
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Steven Pemberton  
> <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl> wrote:
>> Attached is a first-draft version.
>> Comments gratefully received.
>> Steven
>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:20:31 +0200, XForms Users Community Group Issue  
>> Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
>>> ACTION-2143: Spec up adding help hint alert and label to the model
>>> https://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/xforms/actions/2143
>>> Assigned to: Steven Pemberton
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