Re: Thoughts after Call_02

Hi Crispin,

I'll be happy to give it a shot at working with this tool for our
high-level data concept mapping activity during next week's meeting.
Unfortunately, I didn't have as much free reading time last week as I had
hoped for so I'm just now getting around to providing feedback on your
docs. I also have a conflict this week if we are still meeting at 11am ET.

Regards,

J Haag

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Crispin Weston <crispin.weston@saltis.org>
wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> That would be great. Would you be able to lead the call on on CMAPS on 10
> April?
> .
> Crispin.
>
>
> On 27 March 2015, Haag, Jason <jason.haag.ctr@adlnet.gov> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Crispin! I would like to recommend that we look at using a
> concept mapping tool such as CMAPS (http://cmap.ihmc.us/) or something
> similar for mapping our thoughts on the strawman and perhaps a
> complimentary activity/tool for modeling everything you have done already
> using UML.
>
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> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Crispin Weston <
> crispin.weston@saltis.org> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Thanks for coming to Call_02. We will have no call next week (Good Friday)
> but will pick things up again after Easter on 10 April.
>
> *My takeaways from the call are:*
>
> 1. Ultimately, the development of a tool is required. But before then, we
> need to make sure we are targeting the right tool.
>
> 2. We need a "prospectus" that explains the idea and the potential of
> XDMDL in a way that people can understand, without having the benefit of
> yet being able to offer working demonstrations. I feel that I am perhaps
> too deeply into my own strawman to be able to articulate that high level
> prospectus well - so will appreciate any help that other members of the
> group can give in focusing on the key messages.
>
> 3. We need to compare the sort of functionality that I have been
> envisaging (whether it is expressed as XML or something else) against other
> approaches to the same (or perhaps similar) problems. Jason demonstrated
> his work on Wordnet for disambiguating the meaning of verbs which might be
> used with xAPI. My hunch is that this is a related but slightly lower-level
> problem to the one that I am trying to solve with XDMDL - the structuring
> of data models. But  we need to understand the relationship between the two
> technologies and the problems they are trying to solve.
>
> I wonder if we could focus on the particular problem of creating
> controlled vocabularies for the xAPI verb and what it actually means to
> create verbs which are used consistently by focusing on a use case.
>
> *Possible activities for next call in two weeks* (I am told that
> "fortnight" is quaintly Olde English)
>
> 1. If people can read through the two sections of my paper, available on
> the wiki in the Drafting section, you might have some feedback on the
> details. But otherwise, for the time being at least, I think I have taken
> up enough time on calls for my strawman proposal and suggest we should move
> on to some combination of the following.
>
> 2. Some thoughts on the prospectus - maybe starting with the ecosystem and
> working out from there. I think that Pierre is interested to pick up on any
> work which focuses on a broader scope, addressing this wider vision of what
> the digital ecosystem for education might look like and how XDMDL or
> something similar might contribute to it.
>
> 3. Jason may like to take one call to give us a presentation in greater
> depth on what he has been doing with web ontologies.
>
> 4. Maybe on the back of that, we could focus on a use case for the use of
> different verbs with xAPI - and look to define the problems and see what
> sort of contribution can be made by the web ontology and by an XDMDL schema
> approach.
>
> 5. I can work up a use-case, as proposed by Frank, for the return of
> competency information in an xAPI result record - that may then provide an
> opportunity to revisit the strawman in a few calls time.
>
> Any thoughts on how we should structure the next few calls, do shout.
> Particularly if you would like to lead a call.
>
> Best wishes,
> Crispin
>
> PS. I have posted this email to the wiki as a comment, along with a copy
> of my slides to http://wiki.saltis.org/display/XDMDL/Call-02
>
>
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