- From: Mary Ellen Zurko <mzurko@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:18:53 -0500
- To: "Maritza Johnson <maritzaj" <maritzaj@cs.columbia.edu>,Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com
- Cc: W3 Work Group <public-wsc-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <OFE9450436.5BE1E5F1-ON852574FA.007528D7-852574FA.00759804@LocalDomain>
Thanks Maritza. I think this is a substantial enough proposal that we need
to discuss it in a meeting. And we'll need to have an editor there as
well, as we need to get the proposal to a state that it can be edited in.
That would make it either a sequence of smaller items, or you'd need to do
an example of all the changes for folks to look it over and get the idea.
Shall we put this on the agenda of next week's meeting? If both you and
Anil can make it, then I'm game (since Thomas has already sent regrets).
Mez
From:
Maritza Johnson <maritzaj@cs.columbia.edu>
To:
W3 Work Group <public-wsc-wg@w3.org>
Date:
11/04/2008 01:13 PM
Subject:
Action-531: Try to tease apart aspects of the document which are UI
Guidelines
Sent by:
public-wsc-wg-request@w3.org
This action item addresses the comment "It was not written by user
interface people and not for user interface people ... and by the time
we get to the brief user interface guidance in sections 6,7 the way is
lost." On the Oct 15th call we discussed some ways to fix the
document: renaming the document, adding more text to the intro, giving
UI readers more direction ...
Stepping back and reading from his perspective I can see where he's
coming from. The content is good but the presentation is confusing. I
think we can improve readability by reordering the sections, renaming
some of them, and explicitly indicating which sections are most
relevant to UI people.
The sections should be reordered to present the more general UI advice
first. Section 5 addresses the application of a specific technology
and it's presented as the first section of content. We have a lot to
say about TLS, but I think it should be more toward the end of the
document because it's so specific. We should also consider adding an
intro paragraph to 5 about why it's the most worked example.
Section 7 is has the most general UI advice and should be the first
section of content after the overview and scoping/definitions. We
should follow it up with is separate section for communicating error
messages (error handling and signalling). That's one of our stronger
sections and we should highlight its importance for the design of
future interactions/interfaces. The remainder of the current section 6
should follow.
Section 8's name is too general. I think we're presenting this
information as security lessons learned from the mistakes/oversights
of others. We don't have concrete advice on how/when each of them will
come up but we want people to be aware of these issues when they're
designing security indicators. I don't have a great suggestion for a
new name but the entire document is asking them to consider security,
so this name doesn't feel precise enough. Maybe - "Additional Security
Threats to Consider".
We should combine sections 3 and 4, both sections contain definitions
that relate to the document as a whole and tell the reader what the
document is focused on.
The section could look something like:
Working Definitions and Assumptions
- Document Scope
- Product Classes (3.1)
- Interaction Model (most of 4.1)
- Content (rest of 4.1)
- Terms and Definitions (4.2)
- Common UI Elements
- Language Conventions
- Levels of Conformance
- Claiming Conformance
The first sentence of the overview doesn't capture the intent of the
document. "This specification deals with the trust decisions that
users must make online" -- aren't we dealing with the communication of
security context information and suggesting ways for UI designers to
support them in making informed security decisions? (I probably missed
some long discussion about why we're using trust here instead of
security.)
Should we move the acknowledgements section to precede the reference
section?
-- Maritza
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~maritzaj/
Received on Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:19:57 UTC