- From: Maritza Johnson <maritzaj@cs.columbia.edu>
- Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:44:03 -0500
- To: Mary Ellen Zurko/Westford/IBM <mzurko@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com, W3 Work Group <public-wsc-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <8C7C7BA2-6B93-4113-8546-D07FE1F10B65@cs.columbia.edu>
That works for me, I"ll be on the call. -- Maritza http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~maritzaj/ On Nov 7, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Mary Ellen Zurko/Westford/IBM wrote: > > Thanks Maritza. I think this is a substantial enough proposal that > we need to discuss it in a meeting. And we'll need to have an editor > there as well, as we need to get the proposal to a state that it can > be edited in. That would make it either a sequence of smaller items, > or you'd need to do an example of all the changes for folks to look > it over and get the idea. > > Shall we put this on the agenda of next week's meeting? If both you > and Anil can make it, then I'm game (since Thomas has already sent > regrets). > > Mez > > > > > From: Maritza Johnson <maritzaj@cs.columbia.edu> > To: W3 Work Group <public-wsc-wg@w3.org> > Date: 11/04/2008 01:13 PM > Subject: Action-531: Try to tease apart aspects of the document > which are UI Guidelines > Sent by: public-wsc-wg-request@w3.org > > > > > > This action item addresses the comment "It was not written by user > interface people and not for user interface people ... and by the time > we get to the brief user interface guidance in sections 6,7 the way is > lost." On the Oct 15th call we discussed some ways to fix the > document: renaming the document, adding more text to the intro, giving > UI readers more direction ... > > Stepping back and reading from his perspective I can see where he's > coming from. The content is good but the presentation is confusing. I > think we can improve readability by reordering the sections, renaming > some of them, and explicitly indicating which sections are most > relevant to UI people. > > > The sections should be reordered to present the more general UI advice > first. Section 5 addresses the application of a specific technology > and it's presented as the first section of content. We have a lot to > say about TLS, but I think it should be more toward the end of the > document because it's so specific. We should also consider adding an > intro paragraph to 5 about why it's the most worked example. > > Section 7 is has the most general UI advice and should be the first > section of content after the overview and scoping/definitions. We > should follow it up with is separate section for communicating error > messages (error handling and signalling). That's one of our stronger > sections and we should highlight its importance for the design of > future interactions/interfaces. The remainder of the current section 6 > should follow. > > Section 8's name is too general. I think we're presenting this > information as security lessons learned from the mistakes/oversights > of others. We don't have concrete advice on how/when each of them will > come up but we want people to be aware of these issues when they're > designing security indicators. I don't have a great suggestion for a > new name but the entire document is asking them to consider security, > so this name doesn't feel precise enough. Maybe - "Additional Security > Threats to Consider". > > We should combine sections 3 and 4, both sections contain definitions > that relate to the document as a whole and tell the reader what the > document is focused on. > > The section could look something like: > Working Definitions and Assumptions > - Document Scope > - Product Classes (3.1) > - Interaction Model (most of 4.1) > - Content (rest of 4.1) > - Terms and Definitions (4.2) > - Common UI Elements > - Language Conventions > - Levels of Conformance > - Claiming Conformance > > > The first sentence of the overview doesn't capture the intent of the > document. "This specification deals with the trust decisions that > users must make online" -- aren't we dealing with the communication of > security context information and suggesting ways for UI designers to > support them in making informed security decisions? (I probably missed > some long discussion about why we're using trust here instead of > security.) > > Should we move the acknowledgements section to precede the reference > section? > > > -- Maritza > > http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~maritzaj/ > > > > >
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