- From: Rama Akkiraju <akkiraju@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 15:47:38 -0400
- To: verma@cs.uga.edu
- Cc: public-ws-semann@w3.org
Kunal, In the paper you referenced below, you talk about upcasting and downcasting. Upcasting information is stored in the WSDL. Where would downcasting information be stored? In the ontology? If so, how can we burden an ontology to have pointers to elements in individual WSDLs? there could many such WSDLs that may need downcasting. By this, may be you are inferring that the concepts in the ontology have to updated to accommodate enough information abou the terms used in WSDLs that are being matched. Is this right? I am just guessing here. Can you please clarify where the downcasting information be stored in your work? Thank you. Regards Rama Akkiraju "Kunal Verma" <verma@cs.uga.edu > To Sent by: "Jacek Kopecky" public-ws-semann- <jacek.kopecky@deri.org>, request@w3.org public-ws-semann@w3.org cc 05/29/2006 01:45 Subject PM Re: schemaMapping issues breakdown (issue 6) Please respond to verma@cs.uga.edu Hi all, We worked on this issue when we were writing the WSDL-S spec. I agree with Jacek's comments (especially option 1c). Comments are inline. Hi all, here's an attempt to break down what I think are the separate issues in clarifying schemaMapping (issue 6 [1]). This email is written with my chair hat off. 8-) I assume that schemaMapping attribute points to a document that specifies a transformation. It seems that there are two orthogonal sets of options that we need to consider. Wherever I use RDF below I mean any ontological data language (can be RDF, WSML or any such language of choice). 1) The transformation is a) between an XML Schema on one side and an ontology on the other side (schema-level mapping) or b) between XML document conforming to the XML Schema on one side and RDF data that uses some ontology on the other side (data-level, runtime mapping). I believe option a) above is not useful because the XML Schema in WSDL is given and static, the transformation is as static, so the result is also static, and therefore it can be saved somewhere and pointed to using modelReference, as opposed to requiring the processor to take the schema, run the transformation, and arrive at the same result every time. herefore I assume 1b for the formulation and discussion of the following aspect: 2) The transformation goes a) from XML to RDF, b) from RDF to XML, or c) both ways. Since I dismissed the option 1a above, schemaMapping cannot be used easily for discovery, instead it could be used when a service is discovered to work with the necessary semantic terms, and then the client that has instances of those terms wants to invoke the service so it has to transform between its semantic data and the XML that the service requires. I believe that we need to consider both directions because the service both consumes and produces XML messages, so messages for the service have to be created from semantic data, and messages from the service need to be parsed back into semantic data. Depending on whether SAWSDL wants to enable invocation or only discovery (and composition, which uses similar data), we may keep or drop schemaMapping, and if we keep it, we may need to talk about which directions of the mapping it should handle. The conclusion is that we have to decide whether we want schema-level mapping and whether we want data-level mapping, then what directions for the mapping(s) we want to handle. (I'd say "no, yes, both".) I totally agree with this and I think that modelReference is sufficient if providing a semantic match is the only concern. SchemaMapping becomes important only during invocation, when the heterogeneties between the XML data and the OWL instances have to be considered. Hence, I think that option 1c) makes the most sense. We have been working on the issue of providing mapping both ways. We call it upcast (XML to ontological language) and downcast (ontological language to XML). I would like to share this paper that discusses some of the heterogeneity that may arise and discusses as scenario that uses upcast and downcast. Meenakshi Nagarajan, Kunal Verma, Amit P. Sheth, John A. Miller, Jonathan Lathem, Semantic Interoperability of Web Services - Challenges and Experiences, Proceedings of the 4th IEEE Intl. Conference on Web Services, Chicago, IL, September 2006 (to appear). http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/library/download/techRep2-15-06.pdf Thanks, Kunal -- Kunal Verma, LSDIS Lab, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Georgia. URI: http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/~kunal
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