RE: RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4566 Guideline G2 to be reconsidered

+1

Works for me. That resolves the ambiguity of "should" vs. "should not".
Thanks!  --  Toufic

 

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From: Asir Vedamuthu [mailto:asirveda@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 3:15 PM
To: Toufic Boubez; public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: RE: RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4566 Guideline G2 to be reconsidered

 

Hello Toufic,

 

Based on the Wed WG conference call, we are wondering if G2 could be
split into two best practices:

 

G2-a) Assertion authors should define assertions for behaviors that are
relevant to compatibility assessment, such as web service protocols that
manifest on the wire.

 

G2-b) Assertion authors should recommend that assertions that are not
relevant to compatibility assessment be marked with the wsp:Ignorable
attribute.

 

Do they help to resolve issue 4566?

 

Regards,

 

Asir S Vedamuthu

Microsoft Corporation

 

From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Toufic Boubez
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:29 PM
To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: RE: [NEW ISSUE] 4566 Guideline G2 to be reconsidered

 

Proposed new wording:

"Whenever possible, Assertion Authors should try to define policy
assertions for behaviors that are relevant to compatibility tests, such
as web service protocols that manifest on the wire."

This recognizes the fact that it's not always possible (or desirable) to
write assertions for behavior that manifests itself on the wire.

 

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From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org on behalf of Toufic Boubez
Sent: Thu 5/17/2007 11:33 PM
To: public-ws-policy@w3.org
Subject: [NEW ISSUE] 4566 Guideline G2 to be reconsidered

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4566

 

Title: Guideline G2 to be reconsidered

 

Description: Guideline G2 [1], slated for Section 5.1 of the Guidelines
document [2], reads: "An assertion author should define policy
assertions for behaviors that are relevant to compatibility tests, such
as web service protocols that manifest on the wire". It seems to me that
this good practice has been overtaken by events around Ignorable (and
maybe even the closed/open world discussion of late). As editor, I don't
feel comfortable adding it to the guidelines document without further
clarification from the workgroup.

 

References:

[1] 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-policy-eds/2007Apr/0074.ht
ml

[2] 
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2006/ws/policy/ws-policy-guidelines.
html#assertion-target

 

 

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