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From: Yalcinalp, Umit <umit.yalcinalp@sap.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:51:44 -0700
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This completes my action item [Action45] for reviewing/correction the
minutes mentioned in [Minutes] with respect to discussion on [3564]. 

I believe that a lot of other points are missing from the records, but I
am hoping that it would be captured in the discussion/email. 

The minutes should read:

Glen: We need at least something like Umit's option C
... Optiona A seems to venture into negotiation space

Umit: I definitely think option C is a must, however I do not believe a
solution suggested in A to this problem ventures into negotiation. Let
me explain. Negotiation means a lot of different things to  different
people, from a third party communicating sets of policies of two
separate parties on behalf of those parties to exchange of policies
between the parties. In this case, what I intended for A is a "selection
mechanism" not a negotiation mechanism on behalf of a requestor. The
sender is not exchanging its policies with the receiver, the receiver
knows that there are alternates due to optional assertions but needs to
choose one. My suggestion is to define a header to "select" an
alternative that disambiguates the presence of an optional assertion
when needed (analogous to mustUnderstand) After all, an optional
assertion yields two alternatives, one with and one without the
assertion after normalization on the receiver. 

Nadalin: Umits description seems to mix alternatives and optionality
Umit: An optional assertion results in two alternatives as a result of
normalization. The question is which one to select. 

... the rest should be retained. 

I am sure there may be other points that were missed, but I can not
speak for others as I was doing the presentation of the issue. 
 

[Action45] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/wspolicy/actions/45
[Minutes] http://www.w3.org/2006/08/02-ws-policy-minutes.html
[3564] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=3564

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Dr. Umit Yalcinalp
Architect
NetWeaver Industry Standards
SAP Labs, LLC
Email: umit.yalcinalp@sap.com Tel: (650) 320-3095 
SDN: https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/u/36238
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