- From: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
- Date: 01 Apr 2003 16:45:47 -0500
- To: public-ws-pnf-tf@w3.org
Participants: Amy, Glen, Steve, Philippe, Paco, Sanjiva Regrets: Jean-Jacques Review of action items: Glen to write why it should a property instead of an XML element/attribute (pros and cons) *pending* Philippe to write his HTTP features/properties proposal *done* -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-pnf-tf/2003Mar/0025.html Glen to contact Paco *done* --- Review of the HTTP feature and properties proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-pnf-tf/2003Mar/0025.html Glen: setting for abstract property name needs to be specified twice? Philippe: no but one can assume that it is possible to deduce the method used in the binding by looking at the abstract feature level. Problem happens with the limitations of bindings, e.g. for HTTP GET, you cannot use complexType. In such case, even if you use the retrieve property at the abstract level, you will still use POST. I see the abstract level as a hint and not anything else. Glen: there's sort of a disconnect with names in the soap binding. it would be nice to have a single name for things, maybe we should question the whole approach. PLH: you do have a point in that you have to repeat the operation but soap is using "soap" inside their feature and it may lead people to think than even our HTTP binding is using SOPA underneath. Glen: then its a naming issue. if we think this is important, can we ask the soap group to change the 1 uri? do we think its worth stirring the pot? ACTION: Philippe to write comment to soap group that we have encountered this and forward the proposal Philippe: still have issue with http headers ACTION: forward to group and include http headers issues --- Topic: ws policy intro http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/ws-polfram/ Paco: document provides common container - very generic approach. policy element encodes set of assertions. connectors combine sets of assertions. attributes qualify the assertions. name policy by uri or qname. have attribute such as usage that could have a value of "required", "optional", or "observed". or "rejected" or "ignored". policy reference element allows textural embed to allow reuse http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/ws-polatt/ Paco: if you attach a policy to a porttype, then every porttype has to support the policy. if you attach a policy uri to port or service, you're saying that the port or service supports the policy. would like to have a property or feature that supports a policy Glen: it seems that policy and feature are similar things Paco: nothing to prevent defining a feature using a policy uri Philippe: could you have properties and features within a policy? Paco: policy can reference other policies Glen: features are blobs that come from above; policy comes from below and provides semantic for expressing this stuff Philippe: do we need to introduce qnames in features as well? Glen: properties were qnames when they 1st went into the spec; then changed. don't have a canonical qname to uri translator. features & properties model already defined in 1.2; not going to change Philippe: going to have to do mapping for qnames between policy and features/properties
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