- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:11:53 -0700
- To: "Booth, David \(HP Software - Boston\)" <dbooth@hp.com>
- Cc: <public-ws-desc-comments@w3.org>
The WG discussed this some more, but did not reach consensus to pursue moving @action from WS-A to core WSDL. I believe the timing and coordination overhead required to do this contributed to making it unattractive to the WG. > -----Original Message----- > From: Booth, David (HP Software - Boston) [mailto:dbooth@hp.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:10 AM > To: Jonathan Marsh > Cc: public-ws-desc-comments@w3.org > Subject: Re: LC84b resolution > > Regarding LC84b, I really think that the inability to specify the > action for each message represents a significant factoring error. WS > Addressing provides a fine mechanism for doing this, but the > capability belongs in WSDL natively: abstractly, there is hardly > anything more fundamental to the definition of an interface than the > notion of what is intended to happen when a particular message is > received. > > Grouping messages into operations (via MEPs) is useful, but in reality > it is somewhat arbitrary, as the same sequence of messages could be > grouped in multiple ways. But when a message is sent from one party > to another, there is almost always some kind of intent, whether it is > explicitly stated or not. Furthermore, if an action attribute has a > reasonable default value in WSDL, then its existence would place no > burden on users that don't care about it. > > Given that WS Addressing does fill the need for this, those who are > using WS Addressing would have no reason to care that it isn't in WSDL > natively. But since WSDL is such a fundamental building block of the > Web services stack of standards, and this seems so fundamental to the > notion of an abstract interface, I really think WSDL is where it > belongs. > > In summary, I will not ask the WG to reopen this, but I do think it is > a factoring error in the design of WSDL. > > David Booth > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Marsh [mailto:jmarsh@microsoft.com] > > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:34 PM > > To: Booth, David (HP Software - Boston) > > Cc: public-ws-desc-comments@w3.org > > Subject: LC84a/b resolutions > > > > > > The remaining issues exposed in [1] have been resolved. > > Since the Operation Name Mapping Feature has been removed > > from the Core spec (and is being generalized further in the > > Primer, we felt that the remaining two issues LC84b [2] and > > LC84c [3] could be closed with no further action. If we > > don't hear otherwise within two weeks, we will assume this > > satisfies your concern. > > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2004/Talks/1110-dbooth-opname/slide25-0.html > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84b > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84c > > > >
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