- From: David Hull <dmh@tibco.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:46:25 -0500
- To: "public-ws-addressing@w3.org" <public-ws-addressing@w3.org>
- Message-id: <43CD1F61.7000600@tibco.com>
For a while I've been arguing that, like "none", the anonymous address is a behavioral cue rather than the address of some endpoint. In particular, I've argued that it should mean "use the request-response MEP." However, the new SOAP/XMPP (Jabber) binding and some recent discussion on the XMLP list suggest that this is not quite the whole story. XMPP provides both an essentially request-response mechanism (<iq/>) and an essentially one-way mechanism (<message/>). However, both natively include analogs of [source] and [destination]. This means that, while <message/> doesn't natively support request-response in the sense that I know for sure that either there was an error or the server got the request and produced a response, it /does/ support anonymous addressing as we've come to understand it. In particular, it would make perfect sense to send a <message/> as part of a WSDL in-out MEP and have the [reply endpoint] be anonymous (or, erm, missing entirely as Umit points out). This would mean "send the reply back asynchronously to the sender", and since the sender's address is a required part of a <message/> stanza, this would always be well-defined. The only difference between this and the <iq/> version -- and it's a crucial difference -- would be that the sender can't expect an error to come back if, say, the server falls over. However, there is /no/ difference from an /addressing/ point of view, and at the end of the day, we are specifying /addressing/ mechanisms for use in asynchronous interactions, not the asynchronous interactions themselves. >From this point of view the native request-response case, despite its ubiquity, is once again the odd one out. One possible reconciliation is to go back to "return to sender" semantics: * Anonymous means "return to sender" * "Return to sender" in the context of SOAP request-response means "use the response part of the request-response" * "Return to sender" in cases like XMPP means "use the native 'from' address" * If neither is available, then don't use anonymous.
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