- From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
- Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:15:46 -0800
- To: "Jonathan Marsh" <jmarsh@microsoft.com>, <public-ws-addressing@w3.org>
+1 to Jonathan's proposal. I think that an extensibility section is an excellent idea and may set a template for future specifications. I likewise agree that WS-A should not provide a "mustUnderstand" model, as this seems unnecessary when SOAP will often be used for WS-A properties. Further, this would introduce redundant and unnecessary complexity (such as how to deal with multiple mU extensions) in a soap stack - 1 at the soap layer and 1 at the ws-a layer. I further agree that a "must ignore unknown" is an appropriate substitution rule for software that does not understand the extension. I would like to propose that an introduced ext/vers section provide 2 simple examples: a forwards compatible and a forwards incompatible extension. These would show how extension authors can/should use the soap processing model. I propose this for the e/v section because I'm hoping that we won't need to make a primer, which would be a logical alternative for this kind of information. Cheers, Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-addressing- > request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Marsh > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:21 PM > To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org > Subject: i042: Extensibility Model > > > >From [1]: > "We discuss the fact that extra elements/attributes might appear in > the infoset of an EPR in section 2.2, but we do not discuss any > sort of a processing model for these extensions. > > "Also, The abstract properties list in section 2.1 doesn't have > any statement about extensibility. > > "Also, We should decide if we want to support a 'mustUnderstand' > marker on extensions a la SOAP/WSDL, or if we want to discuss > 'ignoreUnknown' semantics for unrecognized extensions/properties." > > Taking mustUnderstand first: EPRs are intended to be exchanged in some > context. It seems to me that there is sufficient mechanism within that > context, outside the EPR itself, to communicate the > mustUnderstand-edness of the extension. For instance, if I transmit an > extended EPR as a SOAP header, I can leverage soap:mustUnderstand. If > my EPR is intended for use by a client who has a WSDL I've provided, I > may use a required feature or wsdl:required to indicate that the client > must be able to process EPR extensions. If I transmit the EPR through > some other mechanism, that mU facilities of that mechanism could be > used. > > Sans fancy wording, I propose that we: > > 1) Clarify that the processing of extensions is defined by the > specification for that extension. > > 2) Clarify that unknown extensions may be safely ignored for > the purposes of processing WS-Addressing properties. (A > mustUnderstand marker seems like overkill to me.) > > 3) Clarify that extensions are allowed to modify the values of > the existing Endpoint Reference Properties. Note that this, > combined with the ignore-unknown rule (2), may result in a > difference of behavior between a processor that understands > such an extension and one that does not. Extension > developers should consider whether they desire this > "fallback to vanilla WS-A" behavior when designing such > an extension. > > 4) Clarify that extensions are allowed to modify the rules for > binding the endpoint reference properties to a particular > transport (such as SOAP). Or to phrase another way, to > indicate that a different binding to the transport should > be used. Same caveat applies here as to (3). > > 5) Clarify that extensions may introduce new properties. > > These clarifications might best be captured in a subsection on > Extensibility rather than trying to distribute them throughout section 2 > as the issue text implies. > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/wd-issues/#i042 > >
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