Re: New issue: We need a 'default default' action for faults

Hmmm, so do we also need a 'default default' action for normal messages 
when there is no WSDL ? Seems like this would be the ultimate result of 
this train of logic.

Marc.

On Feb 4, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Jonathan Marsh wrote:

>
> All good, though it is strange to have something in the WSDL binding
> spec that is specifically non-WSDL.  Perhaps the predefined URI should
> go in the core spec somewhere instead?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Gudgin
>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:36 AM
>> To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
>> Cc: Jonathan Marsh
>> Subject: RE: New issue: We need a 'default default' action for faults
>>
>> Mark pointed out to me that we have a 'template' for raising issues.
>> So here's the issue using that template which will hopefully be more
>> complete and easier for people to get their heads around;
>>
>> Title: 'default default' action URI for fault messages.
>>
>> Description: The resolution for Issue 35[1] removed the fixed default
>> action URI for fault messages and replaced it with a algorithm similar
>> to that for non-fault messages. However, I believe we need a fixed URI
>> for people to use when returning a fault that is NOT described in
>> WSDL. If a fault isn't described in WSDL, then people used to be able
>> to use the fixed URI. That option is no longer available to them.
>>
>> Justification: If we don't add a 'default default' then faults not
>> described in WSDL will have to define a specific action, whereas they
>> might wish to utilize a default fixed value. And they may have nowhere
>> to define that specific action because the fault is NOT described in
>> WSDL; they can't use explicit association (wsa:Action) because there
>> is no where to hang the attribute.
>>
>> Target: wsdl
>>
>> Proposal:  Add text along the following lines to section 3
>>
>> 	3.4 Default Action URI for faults NOT listed in WSDL
>>
>> 	In some systems not all faults can or will be listed in a WSDL
>> description.
>> 	Such faults still need an action URI. Faults not listed in a
>> WSDL
>> 	description MAY use the following
>> 	action URI; http://www.w3.org/ws/2005/02/addressing/fault
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Gudge
>>
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/wd-issues/#i035
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org
>>> [mailto:public-ws-addressing-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Martin Gudgin
>>> Sent: 01 February 2005 09:27
>>> To: public-ws-addressing@w3.org
>>> Cc: Jonathan Marsh
>>> Subject: New issue: We need a 'default default' action for faults
>>>
>>>
>>> We've got rid of the fixed default action URI for fault messages and
>>> replaced it with a algorithm similar to that for non-fault messages.
>>> However, I believe we need a fixed URI for people to use when
>>> returning
>>> a fault that is NOT described in WSDL. If my fault isn't described
>> in
>>> WSDL, I used to be able to use the fixed URI and now I can't because
>>> it's gone.
>>>
>>> Please can we put the fixed URI (or one like it) back, indicating
>> that
>>> it is intended ONLY for use with faults NOT listed in the WSDL.
>>>
>>> Note, I am NOT trying to re-open issue 35[1], I just think we missed
>> a
>>> case, that's all.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Gudge
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/wd-issues/#i035
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Marc Hadley <marc.hadley at sun.com>
Web Technologies and Standards, Sun Microsystems.

Received on Monday, 7 February 2005 18:30:31 UTC