Re: [External] : Re: CfC: Call for resolution to publish WoT Profiles as a Group Note

Hi Kaz and Ben,

I think it makes sense to take a close look at the specific section of the process document.
Please see below for the respective sections:

Taking these into account, may I suggest the following text for the explanation section:

At the current point in time there are only a few profile implementations by group members available and no thorough interoperability tests
were conducted due to resource constraints of the group.
Unfortunately, this is not adequate implementation experience to move this document into recommendation status, so the group decided to publish it as a discontinued draft.
The working group MAY resume work on this technical report, if additional implementers provide additional implementation experience.

Thanks,

Michael
6.3.13.1. Abandoning an Unfinished Recommendation

Any Recommendation-track<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#w3c-recommendation-track> technical report<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#technical-report> no longer intended to advance or to be maintained, and that is not being rescinded, should be published<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#publishing> as a Discontinued Draft<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#discontinuedREC>, with no substantive change<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#substantive-change> compared to the previous publication. This can happen if the Working Group<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#GroupsWG> decided to abandon work on the report, or as the result of an AC Review<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#advisory-committee-review> requiring the Working Group<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#GroupsWG> to discontinue work on the technical report before completion. If a Working Group<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#GroupsWG> is made to close<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#GeneralTermination>, W3C must re-publish<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#publishing> any unfinished technical report<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#technical-report> on the Recommendation track as Discontinued Draft<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#discontinuedREC>.

Such a document should include in its status section an explanation of why it was discontinued.

A Working Group<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#GroupsWG> may resume work on such a technical report<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#technical-report> within the scope of its charter at any time, by re-publishing<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#publishing> it as a Working Draft<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#RecsWD>.

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6.3.2. Implementation Experience

Implementation experience is required to show that a specification is sufficiently clear, complete, and relevant to market needs, to ensure that independent interoperable implementations of each feature of the specification will be realized. While no exhaustive list of requirements is provided here, when assessing that there is adequate implementation experience the Team<https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#team> will consider (though not be limited to):

     *   is each feature of the current specification implemented, and how is this demonstrated?
     *   are there independent interoperable implementations of the current specification?
     *   are there implementations created by people other than the authors of the specification?
     *   are implementations publicly deployed?
     *   is there implementation experience at all levels of the specification’s ecosystem (authoring, consuming, publishing…)?
     *   are there reports of difficulties or problems with implementation?



On 4. Aug 2025, at 11:48, Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> wrote:

Hi Ben and the Profile TF,

Thanks a lot for your hard work and contributions!

As I mentioned during the Profile call on July 30:
 https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.w3.org/2025/07/30-wot-profile-minutes.html*f971__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!NsmczdrRZY3qr2dzjxyC3Q5pxHlGKIukNtCfdAR7wkk5S5E9fdYtzNCimVech2C2IAEy8mrPXn4fyUX7HMYw$


the latest W3C Process (specifcally its section 6.3.13.1 [a]) says
that we should publish a draft, which we have given up to bring to
REC, as an "Discontinued Draft" instead of a "Note". So I'll talk with
Philippe about that today.

Very sorry I was not aware of this big change of the Process...

[a] https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.w3.org/policies/process/*abandon-draft__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!NsmczdrRZY3qr2dzjxyC3Q5pxHlGKIukNtCfdAR7wkk5S5E9fdYtzNCimVech2C2IAEy8mrPXn4fyRXvyPi4$


Thanks,

Kazuyuki


On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 02:58:40 +0900,
Ben Francis wrote:

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Dear WoT Working Group,

I am delighted to share that in today's Profiles task force meeting we closed the
final issues blocking the publication of Web of Things (WoT) Profiles 1.0. The task
force therefore now considers the content of the document to be complete¹ to
the point that it can be published as a Group Note, as per the plan previously
agreed by resolutions in the Profiles call on 7th May and Main call on 21st May.

I would therefore like to call for the following resolution, to be discussed in the
Main call² next week (6th August):

The WoT Working Group agrees to publish the current Editor's Draft of Web of
Things (WoT) Profiles as a Group Note.

Please see the latest Editor's Draft at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://w3c.github.io/wot-profile/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!NsmczdrRZY3qr2dzjxyC3Q5pxHlGKIukNtCfdAR7wkk5S5E9fdYtzNCimVech2C2IAEy8mrPXn4fycDPiDhD$


As per the Working Group's decision policy, if there are no objections to this
resolution within five working days (i.e. by the next Main call) then the Working
Group may choose to adopt this resolution with immediate effect, so that the
publication process may begin.

Please take this opportunity to carry out a final review of the document and
raise any questions or concerns you may have as issues, or by responding to this
email.

Thank you for everyone's hard work so far!

Kind regards

Ben Francis
Co-moderator, Profiles Task Force

Footnotes:

1 Pending the addition of a note in the Status of this Document section to
explain the switch from the W3C recommendation track to the note track,
which will be added at the time of publication. Wording to be agreed in issue
#432.
2 Ideally we would make a task force resolution before the working group
resolution but as it stands the Profiles call is directly after the Main call next
week. We'll figure out a way to co-ordinate that.