[wot-discovery] minutes - 20 September 2021

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2021/09/20-wot-discovery-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Jan!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] https://www.w3.org/

                             WoT Discovery

20 September 2021

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#20_September_2021
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/09/20-wot-discovery-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Andrea_Cimmino, Christian_Glomb, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh,
          Jan_Romann, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura,
          Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          jkrhb

Contents

    1. [4]minutes
    2. [5]PRs
         1. [6]PR 220
         2. [7]PR 221
         3. [8]PR 222
         4. [9]PR 223
    3. [10]DID
    4. [11]Cancellations

Meeting minutes

  minutes

   <kaz> [12]Sep-13

     [12] https://www.w3.org/2021/09/13-wot-discovery-minutes.html

   McCool: created a PR for issue #193
   … we can discuss it today

   McCool: There is a typo under issue 185
   … no other problems, however
   … any comments?

   There are no objections

   McCool goes over today's agenda

  PRs

    PR 220

   <kaz> [13]PR 220 - Fix assertion in section 5

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/220

   McCool: Let's deal with PR #220 first
   … this resolves issue #200
   … There is another PR which might cause conflicts, but let's
   merge this PR first
   … adds consistency by using assertions in certain sections
   … IDs and classes look good, we can go ahead and merge after
   looking at the preview
   … exploration and introduction should be clarified in the
   "Introduction Mechanisms" section

   McCool: Not an issue with this PR, however

   McCool: Are there any objections to merging this PR?

   No objections, McCool proceeds with merging

   PR 220 has been merged

    PR 221

   <kaz> [14]PR 221 - Update intro to introduction mechanisms

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/221

   McCool explains the issues with the current "Introduction
   Mechanisms" intro

   McCool: text said result of introduction can be a URL or a TD
   but it is always a URL at this stage

   McCool: There is currently a conflict that has to be fixed
   before merging

   McCool resolves the merge conflict

   McCool brings up the rendered preview for a walkthrough

   McCool: "Discovery" is replaced with "initial contact"

   <kaz> [15]Preview - 5. Introduction Mechanisms

     [15] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/mmccool/wot-discovery/pull/221.html#introduction-mech

   McCool: intro clarifies that multiple introduction mechanisms
   are possible
   … the two phases are now seperated in a better way
   … merging of results is now being mentioned

   McCool: There is a similar issue in the following (sub)sections
   that requires clarification
   … mostly in "Direct" and "Well-known URIs"

   McCool: Any comments on this PR?

   McCool: I suggest merging this PR and then do more clean-up
   later

   There are no objections to merging the PR

   McCool adds a comment to the PR about future clarifications and
   proceeds with merging

   McCool: With the merging of #221 we can consider issue #200
   resolved
   … issue #193 has been resolved as well

   McCool closes issues #200 and #193

   <kaz> [16]Issue 200 - Implementing a DNS-based approach, are
   DNS-SD and mDNS mandatory?

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/200

   <kaz> [17]Issue 193 - Assertions removed by mistake for
   Introductions?

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/193

    PR 222

   <kaz> [18]PR 222 - Discoverer

     [18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/222

   McCool: I opened this PR with regard to brownfield devices that
   don't support discovery natively
   … the PR introduces the concept of a separate "Discovery"

   McCool: Any objections to merging this PR?
   … not sure if it is the right place but we can always refactor
   it later
   … I am not hearing any objections

   McCool proceeds with merging PR #222

   <McCool> [19]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/216

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/216

   McCool: With the merge of PR #222 we can close issue #216 now

    PR 223

   <kaz> [20]PR 223 - Add object types to actions

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/223

   Farshid: This PR solves the issue Ege was raising about the
   input

   McCool: We also need a note explaining the type, looks like an
   empty object to me

   Farshid: We have the content-type describing that it is a TD

   McCool: The output depends on your schema
   … can also be a string

   McCool: Maybe we should first get some feedback

   McCool adds comments to the PR

   McCool: Maybe the type should be oneOf object, number, string,
   ...

   Farshid: The changes actually aligns it with the specification
   … we are waiting for the specification of JSONPath, however
   … in JSON path some clarification is still required

   McCool: I assume schema is optional in TD spec
   … type: "object" probably does not describe an empty object as
   additionalProperties is always true
   … therefore I assume this is probably okay

   Farshid: Everything is optional in DataSchema

   McCool: Probably not a problem then
   … this should probably be explained, though
   … in the text

   Farshid: In the text it should be clear

   McCool opens the preview for reviewing the changes

   Farshid: In "Creation", for example, there is a paragraph
   regrading the validation of TD objects

   McCool adds a comment to the PR saying that there should be an
   additional sentence regarding the output schema of the action

   Farshid: It could also be part of a description

   McCool amends his comment on the PR

   ft will clean up the PR accordingly

   McCool adds a label to issue #182 saying that a PR is available

   <kaz> [21]related issue 182 - TDD TD: Don't Actions need an
   input field

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/182

  DID

   <kaz> [22]wot issue 982 - Joint call with DID

     [22] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/982

   McCool: I created a joint call for DID
   … there is a dedicated label for DID, some issues could
   probably be closed
   … some of them are older than a year
   … an extra PR might be needed for clean-up and clarifications,
   for example with regard to issue #201

   [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/201

     [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/201

   McCool: DID could be useful for distributing keys
   … is also related to signing TDs, but there has to be a
   signature mechanism defined before
   … DID could also be used to resolve encryption for secure local
   transport

   McCool: We should talk to the DID guys and discuss the
   possibilities for enabling local HTTPS
   … there are some issues that have to be resolved before
   actually being able to recommend using DID

   McCool: In general, there are a lot of issues that are probably
   able to be close, I will go through them and add "Propose
   closing" labels

  Cancellations

   McCool: Plugfest and F2F are coming up
   … normally we cancel meetings but there is a lot to do at the
   moment
   … I propose going to 2 hour meetings
   … the meetings next week and the week after are cancelled due
   to Plugfest and F2F
   … October 11 will be a 2 hour meeting then
   … October 4 will be a 1 hour meeting, however, to prepare for
   F2F
   …
   … October 18 will also be a 2 hour meeting

   McCool: I will update the cancellation section accordingly
   … October 25 will be cancelled as well

   <kaz> [adjourned]


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