- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 04:42:54 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2021/08/04-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Cristiano!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] https://www.w3.org/
WoT-IG/WG
04 August 2021
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#4_August_2021
[3] https://www.w3.org/2021/08/04-wot-irc
Attendees
Present
Chinn_Hwa_Lim, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner,
Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
McCool
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
cris
Contents
1. [4]Minutes
2. [5]Quick updates
1. [6]Meeting cancellations
2. [7]DIoT Workshop
3. [8]TPAC
4. [9]IG Charter
5. [10]WG charter
6. [11]New tweet for DIoT Workshop
7. [12]Smart City Workshop
8. [13]Testing before CR transition
3. [14]Publication planning
4. [15]Liaisons
1. [16]ITU-T
2. [17]ECHONET
3. [18]ISO TC 184/SC4
4. [19]ECLASS
5. [20]OPC UA
5. [21]IG Charter - revisited
6. [22]TF Reports
1. [23]Scripting
2. [24]Security/Discovery
3. [25]Marketing
4. [26]Use cases
5. [27]Thing Description
6. [28]Architecture
7. [29]Summary of resolutions
Meeting minutes
Minutes
<kaz> [30]July-28
[30] https://www.w3.org/2021/07/28-wot-minutes.html
Sebastian: we discussed meeting schedules and announcements of
workshops
… tpac
… changes in the IG charter
… status of W3C smart cities workshop
… publication planning, keep our eyes on the deadline
… as usual TF reports
… any comments about the minutes?
… minutes approved
Quick updates
Meeting cancellations
<kaz> [31]Cancellations
[31] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations
Sebastian: please refer to the wiki about meeting cancellations
… they are valid only for August
… there's some exceptions like Scripting API and Use Case
… this call and the TD call
… TD call will also happen next week
… mostly about binding topics
… after 30 August we'll start again with the regular schedule
… any comments?
DIoT Workshop
Sebastian: Discovery IoT workshop is calling for papers
… deadline is the first of September
… please share on your social media
Cristiano: thank you for mentioning it
… there was a tweet proposal, is it live?
Sebastian: it seems not
Ege: it should be on mccool
<sebastian> At the International Workshop on the Discovery on
the Internet of Things ([32]https://bit.ly/DIoTWS) on Nov 8-12,
Michael McCool will be giving a keynote on the WoT Discovery
process and API.
[32] https://bit.ly/DIoTWS)
<dape> [33]McCool's last comments
[33] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2021Jul/0016.html
Sebastian: it would be better to have a tweet specifically
about the call for paper
Cristiano: it would be even better
Daniel: the tweet below is supposed to be extended
Sebastian: yes but it focused on the keynote rather than the
conference itself or cfp
Ege: if we do two tweets it might be problematic to ping in the
top feed in the website
… I suggest to merge them in one
Sebastian: I little bit too long
Ege: anyhow I'll send it in the mailing list asap
TPAC
Sebastian: we have already a wiki for that
<sebastian> [34]https://doodle.com/poll/c48w8m4naxfnzw5n
[34] https://doodle.com/poll/c48w8m4naxfnzw5n
Sebastian: please submit your preference for the Test fest in
the doodle pool above
… once we have it we can plan other meetings
… currently there's just a copied content from the previous
TPAC
… we should focus on meeting about open topics critical to our
purposes
… like with the json-ld group
… about the TD round-tripping
Kaz: given the deadline is September 10, please put your
preference as soon as possible
… then I'll create another one to pick the actual time
Sebastian: by September 8 we'll have our final decision
IG Charter
Sebastian: it is important since it is expiring
… mccool did small updates
… I am asking the round to merge it
… he added sustainability topic
Sebastian: no templates already addressed in the current
charter
… new security topics
Sebastian: and implementation guides, very important to
increase technology adherence
… we already agreed on this PR
… any objections?
Kaz: The diagram image is a little bit too big, I'll try to fix
it
… other comments?
<sebastian> proposal: group agrees on the new draft of the IG
charter which will be submitted to the W3M
Resolution: group agrees on the new draft of the IG charter
which will be submitted to the W3M [35]https://w3c.github.io/
wot/charters/wot-ig-2021-proposed.html
[35] https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-ig-2021-proposed.html
Kaz: please just note before bring up to the W3M we have to
finish the process on Github
<kaz> [36]strategy funnel issue 274
[36] https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/274
WG charter
Sebastian: it should be renewed too
… do we need TD 2.0 or Discovery 1.1?
… there's an issue open for proposals / ideas
New tweet for DIoT Workshop
<sebastian> At the International Workshop on the Discovery on
the Internet of Things ([37]https://bit.ly/DIoTWS) on Nov 8-12,
Michael McCool will be giving a keynote on the WoT Discovery
process and API. The Call for Papers is also online with a
deadline of 01.09.2021. @DIoT82564518 #IoT
[37] https://bit.ly/DIoTWS)
<sebastian> +1
Daniel: just a small comment about the date, is it right?
<sebastian> Sep 1, 2021
Cristiano: can you use also the hashtag above?
Ege: it seems that it fits
<Ege> At the International Workshop on the Discovery on the
Internet of Things ([38]https://bit.ly/DIoTWS) on Nov 8-12,
Michael McCool will be giving a keynote on the WoT Discovery
process and API. The Call for Papers is also online with a
deadline of Sep 1. @DIoT82564518 #IoT #DIoT2021
[38] https://bit.ly/DIoTWS)
Sebastian: is it ok to publish this tweet?
<sebastian> any objections?
<sebastian> no
Sebastian: approved
Ege: published
<Ege> [39]https://twitter.com/W3C_WoT/status/
1422899943212265481
[39] https://twitter.com/W3C_WoT/status/1422899943212265481
Smart City Workshop
Sebastian: official report to be published
Kaz: I actually updated the report based on the feedback that I
recieved
… it is ready to be published
<Ege> by the way, I think that [40]https://twitter.com/
lmy441900 has a bot liking and retweeting every tweet of us :D
[40] https://twitter.com/lmy441900
Sebastian: how is the process for the chair selection?
Kaz: I'll send the request to workshop committee
… it is quite an hard role
Testing before CR transition
Sebastian: no updates, I just know that mccool is working on
this
Ege: form what I remember he updated the tool chain to use the
playground outputs
… we added new assertion tests
… also we are waiting for the TD spec to be frozen
Sebastian: ok let's wait then
Publication planning
Sebastian: we should define the milestones for the extensions
… please use the calculator tool to obtain the different dates
for transitions
Liaisons
ITU-T
Sebastian: any news from ITU-T?
Kaz: after the vacation season we can continue the discussion
about possible collaboration for plugfests and testing
… still ongoing
ECHONET
Sebastian: echonet?
Kaz: we received the use case proposal.
… we can continue to review it
ISO TC 184/SC4
Sebastian: ISO TC184/SC4
Kaz: ongoing
Sebastian: related to ECLASS
ECLASS
Sebastian: eclass have submitted an use case
… se below
<sebastian> [41]https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/140
[41] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/140
Sebastian: interesting because is a retail use case
Ege: are they using sematic just by referencing a document?
… is not the first time I am seeing this
… do we need to introduce such mechanism
Sebastian: is not really a document
… is the real vocabulary term
… they will the RDF document
Cristiano: I've seen this in the json schema core spec
Sebastian: maybe we can bring this up again with Christian
… only 5 minutes left
OPC UA
Sebastian: OPC UA we had a guest from OPC UA
… but we'll continue the discussion after the vacations
IG Charter - revisited
<kaz> [42]draft IG Charter
[42] https://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-ig-2021-proposed.html
Kaz: updated the picture size for the draft IG Charter
TF Reports
Scripting
Daniel: we'll have a meeting next week
… an issue that keep us busy is if the writeproperty should
return a value
… it touches also other TF
… I suggest to move the discussion on TD
Security/Discovery
Sebastian: no security call
… no discovery call
Marketing
Sebastian: marketing cancelled
Use cases
Ege: we had two presentations, one from connexus and another
from echonet.
… connexus presentation was a recap of 2021
… there will be a followup where they are going present
concrete use-cases based on end users stories
… then echonet
… how well can we present a set of affordances from different
things?
… how to represent this with a TD
… we need to work on if we want full compatibility
… not sure when the discussion will continue
Kaz: the conclusion was to merge the PR and continue further
discussion based on that
Thing Description
Sebastian: small typo fixes
… topics regarding actions and async actions
… how to query action state
… finding a way to initialize the connection
… form is mandatory and is problematic
… we decided to make it optional for ws
… it could led to backward compatibility problems
… but it would be nice to solve
… we'll continue the discussion today
Architecture
Sebastian: I joined late
… async actions
Kaz: yes
… and events
… and which version of SSE should we use
Cristiano: Ben proposed a new process for approval of PRs
… did you have the chance to review it?
Kaz: we need more participants to decide such thing
Sebastian: yeah, I'll put it on the backlog
<kaz> [adjourned]
Summary of resolutions
1. [43]group agrees on the new draft of the IG charter which
will be submitted to the W3M https://w3c.github.io/wot/
charters/wot-ig-2021-proposed.html
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