[wot-discovery][DRAFT] minutes - 16 November 2020

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/11/16-wot-discovery-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Andrea!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                             WoT Discovery

16 Nov 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#16_November_2020

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Christian_Glomb,
          Cristiano_Aguzzi, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh,
          Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          andrea_cimmino

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Minutes
         2. [5]Issues
     * [6]Summary of Action Items
     * [7]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz> scribenick: andrea_cimmino

Minutes

   <kaz> [8]Nov-9

      [8] https://www.w3.org/2020/11/09-wot-discovery-minutes.html

   meeting starts reviewing the minutes from the previous call on
   Nov 9 and the vTPAC

   first the ones from the 2020/11/09

   <kaz> approved

   <kaz> [9]vTPAC minutes

      [9] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html

   syntactic search review from TPAC slides

   McCool: we should clarify short applies both JSON Path and
   XPath
   ... ....put space between words connected with &
   ... ....any comments in the syntactic query session?

   no comments in regards of syntactic search

   <kaz> (fixed the typos)

   Andrea: ....maybe the distributed search among TDDs was the
   most interesting part

   McCool: ...federation could be an optional feature maybe

   Andrea: ... but in the case of the TDDs I think the federation
   as it is is not as suitable as an ad-hoc discovery algorithm

   mccool creates an issue for the further discussion on this
   topic

   Farshid: are there two ways of federation?

   McCool: we need to check the specification

   all the issues and questions about this topic are included in
   the issue created

   <FarshidT> [10]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/34

     [10] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/34

   Issue #97

   issue link: [11]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/97

     [11] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/97

   mccool creates another issue with the necessity of having a
   model for the directory

   this issue is directly related with the federation one

   <FarshidT> [12]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/30

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/30

   link to the issue of the information module

   [13]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/98

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/98

   <cris_> [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/18

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/18

   mccool is grouping a set of related issues under the issue
   number #98

   McCool: ...another issue is how to summarize the information
   stored in a TDD registered in another semantic issue that could
   be interesting is the validation, should we use shapes?

   McCool: ...maybe that is too much, we have Json schema

   Cristiano: ...maybe we could have a semantic and a syntactic
   level of validation?

   mccool creates a new issue to discuss this matter

   link to the issue:
   [15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/99

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/99

   <McCool> [16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/99

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/99

   <kaz> kaz: maybe something more than what Playground does. so
   agree we should re-define validation for WoT Discovery

   currently, LinkSmart is not using SPARQL

   McCool: is somebody else working on another?

   Andrea is working on one, and Cristiano also will work on that
   very likely

   this finishes the TPAC meeting minutes review

   <McCool> proposal: discovery sections of the TPAC 2020 minutes
   are now suitable for release

   RESOLUTION: discovery sections of the TPAC 2020 minutes have
   been reviewed by the Discovery TF and are now suitable for
   release

Issues

   <inserted> [17]Issue 79

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/79

   now the group reviews the issues

   McCool: one issue is the dynamic injection of values into TDs

   Andrea: I have a publication on that
   ... the link for the publication
   [18]https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/3/822

     [18] https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/3/822

   several members from the Discovery TF agree that the dynamic
   injection should not be mandatory

   <kaz> [19]McCool's new comments

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/79#issuecomment-728147288

   <McCool> [20]https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/issues/196

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/issues/196

   McCool added a new security issue for Thing Model, do we want
   to have mandatory security requirements for TDD?

   McCool: ...this could lead to DoS attacks
   ... ...we could mitigate this
   ... ..by rate limit of queries from an entity

   rate limiting*

   Farshid: maybe we could have the mitigation apart from the
   implementation

   McCool: we can write down the mitigation as pointers

   this discussion is written down in issue #96

   issue link: [21]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/96

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/96

   <McCool> [22]https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/86

     [22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/86

   meeting is finished

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [23]discovery sections of the TPAC 2020 minutes have been
       reviewed by the Discovery TF and are now suitable for
       release

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