- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:27:48 +0900
- To: public-wot-wg@w3.org
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https://www.w3.org/2020/09/30-wot-td-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Daniel!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
WoT-WG TD-TF
30 Sep 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#September_30.2C_2020
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner
Regrets
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
dape
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Minutes approval
2. [5]TD session next week
3. [6]TD@TPAC
4. [7]Preparation for FPWD TD 1.1 , PRs
https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pulls
* [8]Summary of Action Items
* [9]Summary of Resolutions
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<scribe> scribe: dape
<scribe> scribeNick: dape
Minutes approval
--> [10]https://www.w3.org/2020/09/23-wot-td-minutes.html
[10] https://www.w3.org/2020/09/23-wot-td-minutes.html
Sebastian: discussed many PRs
... some were merged
... others need further discussions
-> minutes approved
TD session next week
Sebastian: everyone is busy
... suggest to cancel the call
... would like to make all decisions today
McCool: few clean-up things will remain
... might be to you Sebastian
Kaz: Suggest to get back to the topic after the call today
Sebastian: Makes sense
TD@TPAC
Sebastian: see agenda,
[11]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_October_2020
[11] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_October_2020
Preparation for FPWD TD 1.1 , PRs
[12]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pulls
[12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pulls
<kaz> [13]PR 960
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/960
Sebastian: PR#960,
[14]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/960
... new entry in default
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/960
Daniel: Correct
Cristiano: Agree to merge
Daniel: Issue, changed index instead of template
Sebastian: conflict anyway
Daniel: OK, will resolve conflict and ping SK
Sebastian: No concerns, will merge after updates were made
... PR#945,
[15]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/945
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/945
McCool: comment mentions that breaks interoeprability
... defer to 2.0
Sebastian: Okay
... PR#944,
[16]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/944
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/944
McCool: could be done for 1.1
... Ege mentioned that there are no implementations
... recursive schemes allowed?
... need to document use case
... prefer to allow recursion
... however suggest adding "at risk" label
Ege: w.r.t. recursive: limit steps ?
McCool: flattening is possible
... editors note can explain the algorithm
... profile can limit recursion
... proxy use case might need recursion
Ege: proxies might need a *new* TD anyway
McCool: need combinations
... listing is possible but get verbose
Ege: I don't think we should go for recursive complexity
Kaz: related to thing model discussion
... I think we need clear use case description
McCool: I have use case in mind. Need to write it up
... can add editors note
... please create issue and assign it to me (McCool)
Sebastian: Suggest merging it
... conflicts need to be resolved
McCool: OK, will resolve conflicts and merge
Sebastian: PR#943,
[17]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/943
[17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/943
McCool: Need to discuss it with JSON-LD
... suggest merging it and mark it "at risk"
Sebastian: Conflicts need to be resolved
McCool: will fix it
Sebastian: ok for merging, no objections
... PR#938,
[18]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/938
... thing model moved
... integrated feedback from MMC
... some minor fixes the recent days
[18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/938
McCool: Q: How to handle JSON Schema, what is the difference
... suggest we create issue: having JSON schema for thing model
Sebastian: added also note that the work is still in progress
... believe it's a good starting point
McCool: agree with merging
Sebastian: created issue, see
[19]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/972
[19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/972
McCool: could also use a patch for the differences
Sebastian: PR#869,
[20]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/869
[20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/869
Daniel: Need to decide whether addition is useful
... list of possible content types
Sebastian: Yes, i think it is just a suggestions
Cristiano: Same problem Ege mentioned
... no implementation is ready
... mark it "at risk" ?
... reasonable to add it
... never tried to implement it
Sebastian: Instead of MAY we can use also weaker term
Cristiano: In the end it is a problem of the implementation
<Ege> somebody called me, I am back online
Cristiano: can provide some hints
Ege: "implementations" could be just a TD having these terms
Cristiano: I think we need a test with a consumer
Ege: agree, but this is the case for many assertions
Sebastian: Shall we mark it at risk?
Cristiano: Makes sense
Ege: CBOR would just work.. other is more complex
Sebastian: Would be OK to merge it today/tomorrow
Kaz: You will send a message about review to the group list
tomorrow?
Sebastian: Yes
... OK, that leads to have no TD meeting next week
... I am optimistic that we re in time for publication
<kaz> [adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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