[wot-discovery] minutes - 10 February 2020

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2020/02/10-wot-discovery-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Daniel!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                             WoT-Discovery

10 Feb 2020

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#10_Feb_2020

Attendees

   Present
          Andrea_Cimmino, Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool,
          Christian_Glomb, Christopher_Ambler, Daniel_Peintner,
          Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Taki_Kamiya,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          Michael_Koster

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          dape

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Introduction
         2. [5]Organizational logistics
         3. [6]Planning
     * [7]Summary of Action Items
     * [8]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <kaz> scibenick: dape

Introduction

   <kaz> mm: we have guests from GoDaddy today

   Christopher: GoDaddy technical side

   Andrea: Technical University of Madrid, a W3C Member and
   participating in the WoT WG
   ... working on discovery mechanism based on WoT

   McCool: Andrea, could you post links to project and paper.
   Would be useful

   <Cimmino>
   Papers:
   * [9]https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/3/822
    https://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/20/3/822

   * [10]https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8804825
    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8804825

   *
   [11]https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-74433-9
   _2
   Projects:
  https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-74433-9_2

   * VICINTIY ([12]https://vicinity.bavenir.eu/#/home)
    https://vicinity.bavenir.eu/#/home

   * DELTA ([13]https://www.delta-h2020.eu/)

     [13] https://www.delta-h2020.eu/

   McCool: GoDaddy is not a W3C Member but quest participation for
   today is possible
   ... Note: minutes are going to be public after 1 week review
   period

   <kaz> [14]W3C Patent Policy

     [14] https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy/

   <kaz> [15]W3C Patent Policy FAQ 13

     [15] https://www.w3.org/2003/12/22-pp-faq.html#guest

   <kaz> [16]W3C Patent Policy FAQ 6

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2003/12/22-pp-faq.html#non-participants

   Kaz: guest invitation for today's meeting is fine given we
   won't have any concrete technical discussion on our normative
   specs today
   ... please be aware of the W3C patent policy and also the
   patent policy FAQ above

Organizational logistics

   McCool: 1 hour weekly call
   ... start in 5 minutes at the latest
   ... chair picks scribe

Planning

   McCool: Kaz, no wot-discovery repo yet?

   <McCool_> ACTION: kaz to create wot-discovery github repo

   Kaz: have created a wiki but no repo yet

   McCool: Resource on the Web&Networks IG

   <McCool_> [17]https://www.w3.org/wiki/Networks

     [17] https://www.w3.org/wiki/Networks

   McCool: Other events for Agenda are T2TRG workshop and F2F in
   helsinki

   <McCool_>
   [18]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-11_June_2020,
   _Helsinki

     [18] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-11_June_2020,_Helsinki

   <McCool_>
   [19]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/proposals/wot-discov
   ery.md

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/proposals/wot-discovery.md

   McCool: We have material in WoT repo. Propose to move it over
   to new repo
   ... content should turn into W3C draft style
   ... prefer to collect use-cases/analyzes first
   ... at the moment is is *raw* material
   ... "Use cases" section is empty so far
   ... there are design options (at the moment 1 out of several)
   ... need to look into related standards, e.g. CORE resource
   directory
   ... we have material but some parts are 2 years old
   ... suggest to break up single md file in multiple md files
   ... we look at end-user use-cases
   ... need to identify user

   Ege: human user or also things discovering "other" things as
   well?

   McCool: Usually human user

   Ege: Suggest making this clear (end-user focus)

   Andrea: What is the range of the discovery?

   McCool: Should grow out of requirements
   ... assumed multiple scales (peer-to-peer, local network,
   global, ...)
   ... end-goal of discovery is discovering TDs
   ... need to have section in Architecture saying what is
   discovery for

   Andrea/McCool: disscovery should at least return TDs, .. might
   be more, or parts

   McCool: Did work in last few years on various forms... should
   have a write-up for it, kind of a history

   Kaz: agree, should clarify uses cases first
   ... as part of WoT architecture we have been working on uses
   cases. need to think about how to work with Architecture task
   force

   McCool: Propose brainstorming first and maybe push use-cases
   also to architecture
   ... I think we should follow architecture template

   Kaz: and possibly could update the template for discovery
   purposes

   <McCool_>
   [20]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CAS
   ES/use-case-template.md

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/USE-CASES/use-case-template.md

   McCool: Some use-cases taken from MMI work
   ... suggest creating similar directory "USE-CASES" as in
   wot-architecture
   ... "good" use-cases touch more (building blocks) than just
   discovery
   ... please create PR for updates/changes

   <McCool_> [21]https://github.com/w3c/wot

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot

   Kaz: Note, I've just created wot-discovery repo in the
   meanwhile

   <kaz> [22]wot-discovery repo

     [22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery

   <McCool_> ACTION: McCool to copy over context from
   wot/proposals/wot-discovery.md and break up into sections

   <McCool_> ACTION: McCool to create directory for USE-CASES

   <McCool_> ACTION: McCool to generate README.md in wot-discovery
   for PR process, explanation of structure, etc

   (some audio problem with McCool's line, and Daniel types in)

   Daniel: w.r.t. to last action I suggest pointing to wot repo
   and imrpove it if necessary

   <McCool_> agree, will do pointer rather than a copy for PR
   process

   McCool: If people have uses cases in mind please create
   sketches or issues
   ... next time we can discuss the issues (use-cases)
   ... Schedule, link for charter?

   <kaz> [23]official charter

     [23] https://www.w3.org/2020/01/wot-wg-charter.html

   <kaz> [24]WG page also updated for that

     [24] https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/

   McCool: charter speaks about goal ... local and global et
   cetera
   ... if we feel we want to update the charter we can do so...
   but needs formal procedure
   ... Discovery is on REC track
   ... completion expected for Q1 2021

   <McCool_> ACTION: McCool to create revised schedule in the wiki

   NOTE: We had further discussion about the publication schedule
   during the main call on Feb 12, and decided we'll update the
   [25]WoT main wiki to manage the publication schedule for all
   the WoT deliverables.

     [25] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Schedule

   McCool: CR be end of the year 2020
   ... rather optimistic
   ... will update schedule for next week call
   ... If you encounter other groups doing discovery please bring
   it up
   ... lets talk about upcoming events also next week
   ... plase add "future topics" to Agenda

   Christopher: best entry point?

   McCool: Suggest the wiki page

   [26]WoT Discovery wiki

     [26] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf

   <kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: kaz to create wot-discovery github repo
   [NEW] ACTION: McCool to copy over context from
   wot/proposals/wot-discovery.md and break up into sections
   [NEW] ACTION: McCool to create directory for USE-CASES
   [NEW] ACTION: McCool to create revised schedule in the wiki
   [NEW] ACTION: McCool to generate README.md in wot-discovery for
   PR process, explanation of structure, etc

Summary of Resolutions

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