- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:35:04 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
avaible at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Michael Lagally!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
WoT-IG/WG
02 Dec 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#2_December_2020
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura,
Michael_Lagally, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool,
Jennifer_Lin, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
Ege_Korkan, Jack_Dickinson, Michael_Koster,
Ryuichi_Matsukura
Regrets
Dave_Raggett
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
mlagally, kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Publication status
2. [5]Next releases
3. [6]New slot for Use cases
4. [7]ITU-T liaison
5. [8]MiniApps
6. [9]minutes of last call
7. [10]TPAC minutes
8. [11]ASDF calls
9. [12]Joint call with OPC-UA
10. [13]TF reports
11. [14]AOB
* [15]Summary of Action Items
* [16]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> (discussion on drinking beer and wine on the Christmas
day!)
<kaz> scribenick: mlagally
Agenda today: Some updates on document status
... plans for the next months, next events, edi(TD)or tool
Publication status
Sebastian: We released 4 FPWD: Architecture, TD, Profile,
Discovery
... also we published the Scripting API as WG note
Kaz: I made some editorial fixes for the publication, need to
create MRs for them
Next releases
Lagally: Use Cases document planned for February
McCool: target date for pre-CR drafts is May 1st
... Last possible CR transition is December 9th
<kaz> [17]fyi, milestones calculator
[17] https://w3c.github.io/spec-releases/milestones/
McCool: we only target 1.1 version, no time for 2.0 in this
charter period
... decided in TF calls to push it out beyond December
Sebastian: For TD we discussed 2.0 plans, no final decision
yet, but want to focus on 1.1. version
... almost impossible to have 2.0 in time, propose to push in
next charter
McCool: we could try to have FPWD of 2.0 specs in December
... if we get a charter extension we might be able to do it
Lagally: We should not plan for a charter extension right now
<kaz> kaz: +1
McCool: agree in principle
Sebastian: +1
McCool: We could only do it if we work in parallel on 1.1 and
2.0, however focus on 1.1 would be better
New slot for Use cases
<kaz> [18]Doodle
[18] https://doodle.com/poll/9ctgut8eq3cez5zm
scribenick: kaz
Lagally: sent a reminder to the expected/potential attendees
McCool: we'll start the new time/date next week?
scribenick: mlagally
Lagally: yes
McCool: will update the calendar invite then
Lagally: we tentatively pick Tuesday starting next week.
Kaz: some of the JP Members have problems with joining the call
regularly regardless of the times, they could adjust but would
like to know the agenda beforehand. would like to discuss how
to solve the issue during the next Use Cases call.
ITU-T liaison
Kaz: ITU-T Liaison - no news
MiniApps
<sebastian>
[19]https://www.w3.org/2020/11/proposed-miniapps-wg-charter.htm
l
[19] https://www.w3.org/2020/11/proposed-miniapps-wg-charter.html
Kaz: new WG proposal on MiniApps, all AC reps are requested to
vote / comment by December 20th
Ege: They presented at TPAC, Framework for mobile apps based on
Web technologies
Kaz: Client/Server model, runtime environment by the super app
(small browser) and the mini apps (web applications consisting
of HTML, CSS and JS), could become a servient for WoT
Sebastian: We are not listed in their charter as a group to
coordinate with
... I will provide a comment as AC rep to the charter
minutes of last call
<inserted> [20]Nov-25
[20] https://www.w3.org/2020/11/25-wot-minutes.html
McCool: If you have issues we should discuss with other groups,
please label them accordingly
... specifically spatial data
... I will try to get on their agenda, we plan to have a
regular meeting with them
-> No objection, minutes are approved
TPAC minutes
TPAC minutes for Use Case and Web and Network calls still need
to be reviewed
<kaz> [21]WNIG part
[21] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig
McCool: let's review web and network now
... <gives a quick summary of the call>
Kaz: I don't think the minutes are problematic
<sebastian>
[22]https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig
[22] https://www.w3.org/2020/10/05-22-wot-minutes.html#wnig
McCool: I will review together with Sudeep, will mark as
reviewed afterwards
... we also need to review APA section
... will reach out to APA guys, we can decide on December 9th.
Lagally: Please review use case section before next main call,
we would like to conclude the TPAC minutes in December 9th
Sebastian: we will have to review the marketing section in the
marketing call
... this process is a bit inefficient
McCool: Let's do a resolution next week
... will ask for review until next main call via email
ASDF call
SDF meeting coming up mid of December
<sebastian> [23]https://doodle.com/poll/xbwnu88is4k7hsxz
[23] https://doodle.com/poll/xbwnu88is4k7hsxz
<kaz> [24]Niklas Widell's message
[24] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-wg/2020Nov/0035.html
Koster: We have sent a doodle poll, time has been decided, call
will be at 2pm UTC on Dec 14th
... SDF is completely open WG, guithub repo, draft, will send
some official pointers
Kaz: there's a partial overlap with the discovery call
Koster: we had a kickoff, this is the first interim meeting
... we will talk about features for 1.1. We have some solid
proposals already
Sebastian: A student of mine has created a converter between
SDF and TD
McCool: we canceled discovery for the 14th already
Joint call with OPC-UA
Sebastian: We had a call with OPC-UA on TD validation, they
define some semantic web based tools to validate specifications
against OPC-UA datamodel
... we could work together on a binding document to describe an
OPC-UA interface for binding
... follow-up is planned, they also asked for more material,
will share some links with them
... hope to develop concrete plan for next steps
Koster: Was this a WoT/UPC-UA meeting?
Sebastian: We met with the validation TF
Koster: I would also like to participate in this
<sebastian>
[25]https://opcfoundation.org/news/opc-foundation-news/w3c-and-
opcf-to-integrate-opc-ua-into-the-web-of-things/
[25] https://opcfoundation.org/news/opc-foundation-news/w3c-and-opcf-to-integrate-opc-ua-into-the-web-of-things/
McCool: Note that this is the "validation" group, there are
other groups working on the information model
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask about the difference between the
OPC-UA datamodel and TD
Kaz: do you want to continue this discussion in the TD calls?
Sebastian: maybe, we should work on the collaboration
... Schaeffler and Ericsson, Hitachi and Fujitsu is also
interested in active collaburation with OPC foundation
Lagally: would be better to have a page for new comers with all
the correct links
<mjk> +1 create a newcomer page with all the correct links to
the github repos
TF reports
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Daniel: scripting - celebrated the publication of the updated
Note, discussed validation on the directory as well
McCool: security - schedule updates and discussion on issues
Sebastian: marketing - discussion with Coralie
McCool: plugfest - schedule updates
Sebastian: TD - WoT Web page, 1.1 publication, 2.0 roadmap,
issues on Thing Model, etc.
Lagally: architecture - schedule updates, discussion on
interoperability
AOB
McCool: no PlugFest call
Sebastian: talk with you during the TD call!
Lagally: regrets for TD call today
[main call adjourned; no PlugFest call; TD call in one hour]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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