- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:51:27 +0900
- To: public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at: https://www.w3.org/2020/03/12-wot-arch-minutes.html also as text below. Thanks, Kazuyuki --- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - WoT-Architecture 12 Mar 2020 Attendees Present Call 1: Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Zoltan_Kis Call 2: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_Koster, Zoltan_Kis Regrets Call 2: McCool, Ege Chair Lagally Scribe kaz Contents * [2]Topics 1. [3]Call 1 1. [4]Agenda 2. [5]Prev minutes 3. [6]Doodle poll for the new slot 4. [7]Issues 5. [8]Pullrequests 6. [9]HTML for REC publication 2. [10]Call 2 1. [11]Agenda 2. [12]Previous minutes 3. [13]Updated HTML for REC publication 4. [14]X-protocol interworking 5. [15]Issues 6. [16]Use cases * [17]Summary of Action Items * [18]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ Call 1 <scribe> scribenick: kaz [19]Mar-11 main call minutes [19] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/11-wot-minutes.html <mlagally> [20]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf [20] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf <mlagally> [21]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/448 [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/448 Agenda Lagally: (goes through the agenda for today) [22]Agenda [22] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Agenda Lagally: would like to start discussion on possible building blocks based on the use case discussion Prev minutes [23]Mar-5 minutes [23] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/05-wot-arch-minutes.html Lagally: any problems? (none) Lagally: approved Doodle poll for the new slot [24]Doodle results [24] https://doodle.com/poll/f6w4vp8uheub2hx6?utm_campaign=poll_push_close_admin&utm_medium=email&utm_source=poll_transactional&utm_content=choosefinal-cta#close Lagally: this time slot (9am CET) doesn't work ... would think we should keep the current slot in the end ... because Sebastian and McCool can make the Call 2 ... so let's keep the current time RESOLUTION: keep the current time for Call 1 Toumura: currently, this Doodle poll is based on UTC ... but the calls are allocated based on US time Kaz: yeah, so the original time is 7am CET and 3pm Japan now (till March 28) <mlagally> [25]https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html? year=2020&month=3&day=19&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=17 9&p4=248 [25] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=3&day=19&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=179&p4=248 <mlagally> Time on March 19th <mlagally> [26]https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html? year=2020&month=3&day=19&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=17 9&p4=248 [26] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=3&day=19&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=179&p4=248 <mlagally> Time on March 26th: <mlagally> [27]https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html? year=2020&month=3&day=26&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=17 9&p4=248 [27] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=3&day=26&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=179&p4=248 <mlagally> April 2nd: <mlagally> [28]https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html? year=2020&month=4&day=2&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=179 &p4=248 [28] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2020&month=4&day=2&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=168&p2=224&p3=179&p4=248 Lagally: would ask people about if they have any problems with the current time again Kaz: ok Issues [29]Issues [29] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues Lagally: no new issues Pullrequests [30]Pullrequests [30] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull [31]Pullrequest 450 [31] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/450 Lagally: thanks, Toumura-san ... let's merge it! ... (merged) <mlagally> [32]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/448/files [32] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/448/files [33]Pullrequest 448 [33] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/448 Lagally: Jennifer has created this ... (goes through the changes) ... primarily about mobile devices ... reusable localization module is needed ... there are a couple of interesting things ... e.g., latitude/longitude/altitude Kaz: there is geolocation api and generic sensor api which handle geolocation information, e.g., latitude/altitude ... maybe we should survey those existing specs Toumura: there is another group named Spatial Data IG Kaz: we can look into that group's work as well Lagally: shows the Charter of the IG [34]Spatial Data on the Web Best Practices [34] https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-bp/ Kaz: looking into related work including this would make sense Lagally: main requirement is need for describing location information ... various styles in various countries Zoltan: there is MIME type for that purpose <zkis> [35]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Exchange_Format [35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Exchange_Format <mlagally> [36]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation [36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation Zoltan: application/gpx+xml and application/octet-stream ... we should be able to use it Lagally: we should ask the Govtech guys for ideas too Zoltan: data serialization should/could be application-specific ... but some normalization for the data is important Lagally: potential property names ... we had some strawman discussion for wot-profile <mlagally> [37]https://w3c.github.io/wot-profile/#mandatory-fields-0 [37] https://w3c.github.io/wot-profile/#mandatory-fields-0 Lagally: simple proposal of streamline ... possible issue with altitude with bridges, etc. <mlagally> [38]https://www.iso.org/standard/39242.html [38] https://www.iso.org/standard/39242.html Lagally: another resource from ISO Zoltan: 2 levels of approach here ... convey the data and context ... the other is going into deep ... incorporating with our vocabulary ... architecture-wise, how to represent the data is to be discussed ... deeper discussion would become too complicated Lagally: agree ... would see the clear description on the use cases and the requirements for the Architecture discussion ... possible extension for node-wot from implementation viewpoint ... let's go through the rest of the use case description ... very nice and useful use case Zoltan: I like those examples since they're related to actual life ... let's keep on the right approach Lagally: would like to merge this (no objections) Lagally: merged HTML for REC publication [39]static HTML [39] https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/publication/rec/ [40]diff from Proposed REC [40] https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/publication/rec/diff.html Lagally: need to look at the diff Kaz: we can skip the title and the status section ... can updated the reference URLs as well ... the publication date for TD should be the same day as the Architecture itself (as a REC :) Lagally: wondering about how to describe the changes Kaz: no normative changes ... just editorial fixes ... also was wondering about fig 18 <mlagally> Proposal: Change log to be extended with: "No normative changes, minor editorial fixes and stable external references. Kaz: do we want to use the updated diagram which we generated for the press release? Lagally: no, don't think we should update the figure RESOLUTION: Change log to be extended with: "No normative changes, minor editorial fixes and stable external references. Lagally: Kaz, please generate an updated HTML based on the discussion today Kaz: ok <scribe> ACTION: kaz to update the static HTML for REC publication Lagally: any other business for this call? (none) Lagally: let's talk with some of you during the Call 2 [Call 1 adjourned] __________________________________________________________ Call 2 Agenda Lagally: (goes through the agenda) ... (also the discussion during the first call) [41]Agenda [41] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Agenda [42]call 1 minutes [42] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/12-wot-arch-minutes.html Previous minutes [43]Mar-5 minutes [43] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/05-wot-arch-minutes.html Lagally: any objections to accept the minutes? (no objections) Lagally: approved Updated HTML for REC publication [44]Draft for REC [44] https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/publication/rec/ [45]Diff from Proposed REC [45] https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/publication/rec/diff.html Lagally: (goes through the diff above) ... minor editorial changes ... and references to be updated ... will create a pullrequest for the changes section ... part of minor editorial changes [46]Pullrequest 451 [46] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/451 Kaz: maybe we should not use "REC" specStatus for respec Lagally: ok ... (adds a comment to the pullrequest) ... close this pullrequest without merging ... note that the change description itself is already reflected Kaz: that's fine :) ... will regenerate the static HTML version then X-protocol interworking [47]Pullrequest 431 [47] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/431 Lagally: would suggest we look into the detail next week Issues Lagally: just quick sanity check [48]Issues [48] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues Lagally: media-related use cases Use cases [49]Use case descriptions [49] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/master/USE-CASES Lagally: (goes through the use case descriptions) ... want to have overviews [50]requirements.md [50] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/REQUIREMENTS/requirements.md Lagally: we don't have semantic annotation requirements yet ... e.g., for the compatibility with iotschema.org Koster: right ... we should work on that ... go ahead and make an action Lagally: ok ... (creates a new Issue for that) <mlagally> [51]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/452 [51] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/452 Koster: W3C Thing Description being a backplane for semantic information Lagally: should I assign this issue to you? Koster: yes :) [Call 2 adjourned] Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: kaz to update the static HTML for REC publication Summary of Resolutions 1. [52]keep the current time for Call 1 2. [53]Change log to be extended with: "No normative changes, minor editorial fixes and stable external references. [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by David Booth's [54]scribe.perl version 1.154 ([55]CVS log) $Date: 2020/03/16 04:59:42 $ [54] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [55] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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