- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:19:26 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/03/12-wot-marketing-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking th minutes, Michael McCool!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT-Marketing
12 Mar 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Agenda
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Daneil_Peintner, Ege_Korkan,
Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool,
Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
dezell, David_Ezell
Regrets
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
McCool, kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda
2. [5]Press release
3. [6]Previous minutes
4. [7]Twitter account
5. [8]Virtual F2F meeting
6. [9]Building IoT
7. [10]Link Smart project
8. [11]Twitter redux
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> scribenick: McCool
Agenda
Sebastian: agenda: same as last week
<ege> [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/17 is the
twitter issue
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/17
mccool: add f2f schedule for marketing
Press release
<kaz> [15]latest draft
[15] https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/pressrelease-wot-rec.html
McCool: meeting with W3M
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
McCool: suggestion was deleting the deliverables section
... but need examples of applications
... concrete example for business impacts
... another point is possible testimonial from Singapore
... Alan can review the updated one
... we should have the marketing call at the regular time on
Thursday
... for press release discussion
... maybe a few of us to update the draft
... we need examples
... of products which people build systems on
... would be great to get initial write-up
Sebastian: tx for your feedback
... sounds good
... would take some more time, though
<inserted> scribenick: McCool
Sebastian: not unhappy with putting off the pr
... with the coronavirus people are distracted anyway
... would also be very cool to get more examples and
testimonials
... we should also ask SmartThings
... so imo we should take the time to improve the press release
<kaz> [16]fyi, statically version
[16] https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-marketing/039655a9/docs/pressrelease-wot-rec.html
Sebastian: and looking forward to the feedback from Alan Bird
... and Siemens can provide some details on our product
McCool: very important at this point that we get more examples
of practical applications and products
Sebastian: also, looking at the pr, there is still a bug with
the image not rendering right in firefox
McCool: we know about the bug, we should fix it
Kaz: let's deal with it separately
Lagally: not sure about delaying the press release
... do think it makes sense to another round of editing
... but we should not wait until the coronavirus problem is
over
... in the IT world people are still working
McCool: W3M is to take at most 2wks to complete the revisions
Lagally: ok, understood; not concerned about 2wks
Kaz: ok with decision to delay pressrelease and emphasis on
business impact since I've been also suggesting we should
emphasize the business impact part
... but we should be careful about how to update the impact
section
... for example, we should mention some possible use cases to
describe "what would be useful" to use WoT for IoT
McCool: should include specific use cases
Kaz: right. I think we should include both the current status
and the near-future expected situation
Lagally: in the arch spec we do have a number of target domains
... where the spec would be useful
McCool: some statistical information would be useful, even a
"yes/no" about whether a company is working on a product, with
no details
Sebastian: so summary is, Alan is working on some input by next
Tuesday, will join us next Thurs
... in the meantime, we need to collect more statements and
elaborate upon examples
... and we can also get some more testimonials
Sebastian: eg from Singapore (Smart City) and Smart Things
(Smart Home)
... also Samsung is also involved in an EU project; may be some
WoT committment there, need to ask
... will ask Michael Koster
Previous minutes
<kaz> [17]Mar-5 minutes
[17] https://www.w3.org/2020/03/05-wot-marketing-minutes.html
Sebastian: reviewed last week's minutes; mostly press release
... any objections to making these public?
... hearing none, we will make these public now
Twitter account
<ege> can we postpone the twitter for 5-10 minutes? I am on a
call sadly
Sebastian: ok, let's postpone this
Virtual F2F meeting
<kaz> [18]virtual f2f agenda
[18] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_16-19_March_2020,_Online
Sebastian: will have marketing call at the usual time next
week, but will use the F2F webex
... will have to make sure we let Alan know and put a note in
the Marketing wiki
<kaz> ACTION: kaz to allocate a dedicated 4-day webex for the
virtual f2f
Building IoT
Sebastian: shared with you my slides
... did a small verbal survey
... show of hands
... also did a livesurvey after talk
... no vote that said they were NOT interested
... all responders wanted more information
... and three votes that said they were interested in joining
the WG
... including Bosch, which are planning to join the group
... they are especially interested in discovery
McCool: (note to self: make sure Kevin from Bosch also knows
about the webex change...()
Lagally: great news that Bosch is joining
... would like to know more about the conference
... industry, audience, etc.
<kaz> [19]Sebastian's slides (Member-only)
[19] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2020Mar/att-0213/2020_buildingIoT_WoT_sebastian_kaebisch.pdf
Sebastian: just German IoT community; small, about 150
participants
... both small and large companies, but a good mix
... HiveMq, tarent (also possibly interested in joining), etc.
<sebastian> [20]https://www.buildingiot.de/programm.php?source=
[20] https://www.buildingiot.de/programm.php?source=
Sebastian: organized by Heise online; well-known IoT news
source in Germany
Lagally: it was technical people?
Sebastian: less business, more technical
... so more of a developer conference
McCool: any possibility of a blog?
Sebastian: unfortunately won't have the time...
... can use twitter though
Kaz: current page does have a section for a news update
... would be nice if you could add one sentence there
<kaz> [21]wg page
[21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/
Sebastian: would rather focus on twitter...
McCool: and get a twitter feed to show up on those pages...
Sebastian: exactly
Link Smart project
Sebastian: there is a GitHub repo on the "Link Smart" project
which seems to use WoT
... we should reach out to them
McCool: since they are German, perhaps sebastian should reach
out?
Sebastian: yes, I intend to
Kaz: reasonable to invite them to the virtual F2F next week and
the WG call
Sebastian: I think they are already a W3C member
Kaz: but not in the WG
Sebastian: they are also developing a thing directory; so maybe
should also be contributing to discovery
Taki: also working with them on IETF TF
... had also search about this; I will also look into it
... my contact is with another person at Fraunhofer to try and
get information and contacts
<sebastian> [22]https://linksmart.eu
[22] https://linksmart.eu/
<sebastian> [23]https://github.com/linksmart/thing-directory
[23] https://github.com/linksmart/thing-directory
Twitter redux
see issue #17
[24]https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/17
[24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/17
Ege: many groups have twitter accounts
... can distribute small updates and notes, such as changes to
specs, etc.
... can then embed feed into other places, like the web page
... marcom wants it to start with W3C_
McCool: does capitalization matter for twitter handles?
Dape: no, I don't think so
McCool: good
Ege: so suggest we use W3C_WoT
McCool: let's go with W3C_WoT and then test if it works
<Zakim> dape, you wanted to "who" creates the twitter account,
we ?
Dape: who will create it?
Kaz: let's continue discussion with Coralie on this thread
McCool: so, who is allowed to post? Hopefully not just
marketing
... I think at least chairs and editors
proposal: to ask that a twitter account with the name W3C_WoT
be created, with at minimum WoT WG chairs and editors given the
rights to post
RESOLUTION: to ask that a twitter account with the name W3C_WoT
be created, with at minimum WoT WG chairs and editors given the
rights to post
Ege: I just checked, indeed twitter handles are
case-insensitive
Sebastian: next week we will continue discussion of press
release, and if time we will look at web content
McCool: since it will be the F2F, I think we should also put
aside time for planning and to discuss next steps
Kaz: you mean we could use the possible remaining time during
the Marketing call at 9am EDT on Thursday. right?
McCool: yes
Kaz: please note there will be two team-internal calls on 19th
... so may have to move the marketing meeting earlier to avoid
the conflict
McCool: how about we do marketing first, then node-wot
Kaz: will check with Alan and Philippe about doing that
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: kaz to allocate a dedicated 4-day webex for the
virtual f2f
Summary of Resolutions
1. [25]to ask that a twitter account with the name W3C_WoT be
created, with at minimum WoT WG chairs and editors given
the rights to post
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