[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 11 December 2019

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Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Dave!

Kazuyuki

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                               WoT-IG/WG

11 Dec 2019

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Dave_Raggett,
          Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Taki_Kamiya,
          Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Daniel_Peintner,
          Ege_Korkan, dsr, Kunihiko_Toumura, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
          Zoltan_Kis

   Regrets
          Sebastian

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          dsr

Contents

     * [2]Topics
         1. [3]WG Charter
         2. [4]Proposed REC preparation
         3. [5]Possible Press Release
         4. [6]Data schema for non-JSON payloads
         5. [7]Face to Face meetings
         6. [8]TF reports
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
     * [10]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz> scribenick: dsr

WG Charter

   The charter is out for AC Review with a deadline of next
   Tuesday. We need the votes in by our next call.

   <McCool> [11]AC review results (Member-only)

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/wotwg2019/

   We've had some minor changes in the charter template. We've
   identified a further 10-15 companies we should reach out to for
   their votes. If you know the AC Rep for any of these, you are
   welcome to reach out.

   Kaz will provide the list of outstanding prospects

   McCool: they supported us last time, right?

   Kaz: yes, all of them are part of the current WoT WG
   participants

   McCool: Some feedback in the AC Review - the description of the
   TD deliverable is now too vague

   Kaz: the detailed text is in section 2

   McCool: perhaps the AC Rep wasn't looking at that?
   ... Suggestions for liaison with GS1 from Phil.
   ... let's indeed add that

   <McCool> proposal: include liason with GS1 in WG Charter

   [no objections]

   David: is GS1 a participant in the WoT WG?

   McCool: no

   David: this request could be read as a PR thing

   RESOLUTION: include liaison with GS1 in WG Charter

   <McCool> ACTION: McCool to update charter to include GS1
   liaision

   GS1 did come to the workshop in Munich ...

   Any other comments? [no]

Proposed REC preparation

   McCool: we need to do this today or it will happen in 2020

   We need to make a resolution to move to PR today to be within
   the end of year publishing moratorium

   We had a few minor changes e.g. to update references and need
   to add these to the change log

   McCool asks mlagally to do this

   Lagally: okay, I can do that

   Kaz: given that the change is really small we could note in the
   SoTD

   McCool: I updated some labels ...

   adding a CR2 period label

   <kaz> [12]example PR transition request (for vc-data-model)

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/158

   The change log currently only lists one change and I think
   there are more than that

   McCool: can I get a volunteer to do a diff on the specs and do
   a merge into the change log

   Taki: I can do that

   McCool: it is needed today ...
   ... We talk about dependencies ...
   ... we could state that dependencies are listed in the
   dependency section

   McCool asks Kaz for the wording for the PR resolution

   Kaz responds

   <McCool> proposal: current editor's draft of Web of Things
   (WoT) Architecture document should proceed to PR transition

   Taki: do we want to discuss the ID issue?

   <McCool> proposal: current editor's draft of Web of Things
   (WoT) Architecture document should proceed to PR transition,
   including updates to change log

   Lagally: isn't that about the TD not architecture?

   McCool: I should create an issue to update the changelog

   <McCool> [13]https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/416

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/416

   <McCool> proposal: current editor's draft of Web of Things
   (WoT) Architecture document should proceed to PR transition,
   including updates to change log

   [no objections]

   mlagally suggests tweak to wording

   <McCool> proposal: current editor's draft of Web of Things
   (WoT) Architecture document, including updates to change log,
   should proceed to PR transition

   RESOLUTION: current editor's draft of Web of Things (WoT)
   Architecture document, including updates to change log, should
   proceed to PR transition

   McCool: now the same for the TD spec

   <McCool> proposal: current editor's draft of Web of Things
   (WoT) Thing Description document, including updates to change
   log, should proceed to PR transition

   <taki>
   [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/560#iss
   uecomment-562834543

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/560#issuecomment-562834543

   McCool: Not sure we have an issue number for coap

   some talk about the ontology files on github.io and w3.org

   I believe that the TD spec itself is fine

   Kaz: some question about changing the file name for the
   ontology

   McCool: does this matter for the PR transition?

   Kaz: no
   ... Also if really needed, I can change the redirection setting
   (from https://www.w3.org/2019/wot/ to
   https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/ontology/) to adapt
   to the file name change.

   <McCool> proposal: current editor's draft of Web of Things
   (WoT) Thing Description document, including updates to change
   log, should proceed to PR transition

   Any objections? [no]

   RESOLUTION: current editor's draft of Web of Things (WoT) Thing
   Description document, including updates to change log, should
   proceed to PR transition

   McCool asks kaz to add links to the minutes to help Michael
   with the PR transition requests

   and Kaz provides links to resolutions during the main call on
   IRC

Possible Press Release

   Do we want a press release for the PRs?

   McCool: we're better of with one press release for both
   rechartering and the PRs

   <kaz> [15]example press release of CSS Writing Modes

     [15] https://www.w3.org/2019/12/pressrelease-css-writing-modes-rec.html.en

   Kaz: Dave and I can't make this week's marketing TF call due to
   an internal staff review meeting

   McCool: let's discuss the PR in next week's marketing call

   Dave offers to help Sebastian with drafting PRs and we can
   discuss white paper and blog posts etc. in next week's
   marketing call

   Dave to contact Sebastian about this

Data schema for non-JSON payloads

   <kaz> [16]Issue 839

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/839

   Tentative resolution to only cover structured data, not e.g.
   JPEG files

   Seeking input on whether we need some constraints on non
   structured data

   Lagally: we need a little more discussion, e.g. for binary data

   Kaz: handling binary data is difficult, but we could make
   progress at joint meeting with W3C Media and Entertainment IG

   McCool: the IETF is working on binary data, and we should track
   that

Face to Face meetings

   McCool: Nothing yet from Mozilla in respect to Mountain View in
   early March.
   ... We should pin down a date and plan for an open day

   <inserted> kaz mentions the earlier, the better if we have the
   meeting in March, because March is the end of JP fiscal year

   McCool: Seeking suggestions for June/July meeting, my
   assumption is that we can go with intel in Finland

TF reports

   McCool: No security meeting this week, currently discussing
   lifecycle content to be moved to the Architecture draft
   ... also looking for a better timeslot for the Architecture
   call

   <inserted> kaz: and I'll create a doodle poll for Marketing to
   avoid overlap with the project review calls

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: McCool to update charter to include GS1 liaision

Summary of Resolutions

    1. [17]include liaison with GS1 in WG Charter
    2. [18]current editor's draft of Web of Things (WoT)
       Architecture document, including updates to change log,
       should proceed to PR transition
    3. [19]current editor's draft of Web of Things (WoT) Thing
       Description document, including updates to change log,
       should proceed to PR transition

   [End of minutes]
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