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[wot-security] minutes - 3 September 2018

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:50:59 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9X=fGyCSWAVoHjCsDr805YrUwtjWjCUsCgWsxHw_oE-OA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2018/09/03-wot-sec-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Nimura-san!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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                              WoT Security

03 Sep 2018

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Sept_3.2C_2018

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Elena_Reshetova,
          Kazuaki_Nimura, Xiaoru_Li, Michael_Koster,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          nimura

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Agenda
         2. [5]Previous minutes
         3. [6]Final review of updated Security and Privacy
            Considerations
         4. [7]TD Security and Privacy Considerations
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
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   <kaz> scribenick: nimura

Agenda

   <McCool>
   [10]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Sept_3.2
   C_2018

     [10] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Sept_3.2C_2018

   todays topics: "TD security and Privacy Consideration" and
   "Best practice document review".

Previous minutes

   [11]Previous minutes

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2018/08/27-wot-sec-minutes.html

   review of minutes from last meeting.

   <McCool> mccool: moved action items to
   [12]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Actions

     [12] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Actions

   allocated responsible persons to each action items.

   <kaz> [ Kaz will add "McCool to update plugfest planning docs
   to include security scheme configurations to test from best
   practices" as an additional action to the prev minutes ]

   accepted.

Final review of updated Security and Privacy Considerations

   [13]PR 116

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/pull/116

   PR #116: Fixed the figures in section 7.

   get rid of the commas in the figure.

   <kaz> [14]updated figure

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/blob/master/images/scripts-security-1.png

   MM to create PR for scripting API security consideration
   section to include normative statements.

   no objection to merge the figure after changing the comma part.

   that's can be PR.

   ZK mentions he'll make some more changes on Scripting API.

   We can do one more PR for it and review it in main call.

   we'll have review/discussion on the Scripting API draft during
   the main call on Wednesday, Sep. 5.

   Those are not related security and privacy.

   we will have the version for publication on this Thursday.

TD Security and Privacy Considerations

   <McCool>
   [15]https://rawgit.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/0aa72308cdb8e0
   743a503ebdd98ddeff78d77995/index.html

     [15] https://rawgit.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/0aa72308cdb8e0743a503ebdd98ddeff78d77995/index.html

   There several issues in TD:

   normative "SHOULD" statement.

   Keep on discussing in the current TD.

   Added some references in the TD doc.

   that defines various normative descriptions.

   security and privacy is not standard but do want to follow this
   guideline.

   Kaz mentions that there are several possibilities:

   1. would suggest we simply add an "Editor's Note" for that

   2. if we want to make the guideline document an additional
   normative deliverable, we need to wait until the new charter
   period

   3. or if the guideline is simply a separate section of the
   current security Note, we can publish it as an additional Note

   4. or possibly included in the existing normative deliverables,
   e.g., TD

   write informative document and reflect in the next charter as
   normative document.

   <inserted> McCool will add an Editor's note about that idea as
   the starting point

   only thing about security that has recommendations.

   ID: Thing should not be fixed in hardware.

   update allows only reinitialized the thing.

   Is there any feed back from TD group?

   access to TD: only authorized use should access the thing.

   this part sounds security depends on security.

   pre-authenticate user before distribute TD.

   Thing directory would provide the capability.

   signing TD capability can be introduced.

   protecting authentication credential as well.

   MUST: need to have user consent for users data.

   "user consent" vary depends on places.

   "a thing must satisfy all legal requirements" would be the
   reasonable description.

   de-capitalized the MUST.

   Kaz wonders if we want to mention GDPR

   <inserted> note that GDPR is just one of the example
   policies/regulations here

   TD PR #207 is about consent.

   swap "on" and "off" actions is the example of problem of
   tampering.

   <kaz> mm: (summarizes)
   ... Security PR116 for the upcoming publication if possible
   ... TD PR207 long-term point for the next publication

   [16]Security PR 116

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security/pull/116

   [17]TD PR 207

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/207

   <kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

   See [18]the Action wiki.

     [18] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#Actions

Summary of Resolutions

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