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[PlugFest/Test] minutes - 10 October 2018

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 04:15:19 +0900
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also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Michael McCool!

Kazuyuki

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                          WoT PlugFest/Testing

10 Oct 2018

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan,
          Michael_Koster, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally,
          Takeshi_Yamada, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          McCool, kaz

Contents

     * [2]Topics
         1. [3]Agenda
         2. [4]Oracle
         3. [5]Initial discussion on Demo planning
         4. [6]Panasonic
         5. [7]Hitachi
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda

   <inserted> scribenick: McCool

   plugfest todo, including dev meetup scenarios

   [10]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-lyon/S
   cenarios.md

     [10] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-lyon/Scenarios.md

Oracle

   [11]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-sept-o
   nline/result-oracle.md

     [11] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-sept-online/result-oracle.md

   oracle results, graph showing combinations

   also have node-wot script

   and a bridge servient integrating with Panasonic's devices

   tried, but ran out of time

   for cloud service, have information coming

   from festo plant and keti sensor

   then orchestrate actions based on events

   rgb light simulator

   also fixed convertor during plugfest, outputs TDs that validate

   no support for observe at the moment

   looked at use cases

   see screeshots

   home environment

   simulated KETI device

   can trigger other events, eg change color of the lamp

   industrial use case

   distributed assets

   can visualize on a map and navigate

   this is what I would advocate for next plugfest

   let's build on what we have working

   Look at Scenarios.md...

   [12]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-lyon/S
   cenarios.md

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-lyon/Scenarios.md

   what do we do with Dev Meetup?

   Lagally: maybe one table home, one industrial

   McCool: remote or local?

   Lagally: more interesting to look at remote sites

   McCool: I like the idea of two separate demos

   Lagally: what about video streams?

   McCool: I'm guessing 95% certainty that google hangouts will
   work

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   Kaz: who will attend the dev meetup?

   lagally, mccool, koster, matthias, daniel, sebastian, kaz, dave
   (from the discussion at the main call)

   toumura, yamada (confirmed now)

   McCool: let's see who to bring what

   (updates the Scenarios.md with the information on
   devices/applications)

Initial discussion on Demo planning

   one home demo and one industrial demo

   remote demo but need a fallback to local one

   also fallback via simulators

   home demo based on Panasonic's devices

   industrial demo using festo plant

   directory search, orchestrate devices from SmartThigns and
   Intel

   possibly 3 demos above

   McCool: remote: home demo and industrial demo
   ... local fallback by node red orchestrating devices from
   Intel/SmartThings
   ... motion/button activates light, camera, speech output
   ... (categorize three demos)
   ... home scenario, industrial demo and local fallback

   Kaz: btw, diving into the planning is fine
   ... but there are reports from Panasonic and Hitachi as well
   ... quick report by them?

Panasonic

   [13]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-sept-o
   nline/result-panasonic.md

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-sept-online/result-panasonic.md

   Yamada: report above
   ... summary diagram here
   ... doted line shows some issues
   ... 3.2.7 Security
   ... bearer token: The browser could access Remote proxy
   (Fujitsu) only after bypassing CORS checking at the browser.
   ... OAuth2: The browser could not access MyCarThing (Eurecom)
   even after bypassing CORS checking at the browser. It was
   caused by "https + self-signed certificate".
   ... the issues should be resolved

   McCool: requires changes for TD?
   ... looks like proxy implementation issue
   ... and self-signed certificate
   ... did you try accessing devices using nod-wot?

   Yamada: just Panasonic ones
   ... not node-wot

   Kaz: this issue implies a question if we should think about
   CORS for node-wot

   McCool: should consider that
   ... discussion during the security calls about bearer token and
   OAuth

Hitachi

   [14]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-sept-o
   nline/result-hitachi.md

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2018-sept-online/result-hitachi.md

   Toumura: result above
   ... connected with KETI, Panasonic, Oracle, Fujitsu
   ... this diagram is automatically generated by some script
   using graphviz
   ... (shows the source code)
   ... issue on 3.2.2 read property
   ... Multiple form entries in single property. How can I select
   suitable entry from them? For example, if first form in the TD
   contains an URL which is accessible from local net only, remote
   clients (access from the Internet) must skip the form and
   search another form to access the Thing. I think it is useful
   to prepare some guidelines for implementing WoT stack.
   ... last part on use cases
   ... used KETI sensor and Panasonic bulletin board
   ... also Oracle simulator
   ... Panasonic Hue groups, Intel LED, Fujitsu beacon light as
   well

   Kaz: can we ask Panasonic and Hitachi as well for demo scenario
   based on their experience?

   McCool: yeah, let's continue the discussion during the next
   call
   ... would see node-wot scenario as well
   ... both industrial ones and home ones
   ... different application orchestration
   ... node red is also compelling
   ... also would see good semantic examples
   ... semantic search

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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