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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 2 May 2018

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 14:38:37 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9UGYO4yyy_sekTc0xT1vGnhy0u9LiOCHAsSr4rMAFfurA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2018/05/02-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Daniel!

Kazuyuki

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                               WoT-IG/WG

02 May 2018

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Michael_Koster,
          Daniel_Peintner, Fano_Ramparany, Graeme_Coleman,
          Zoltan_Kis, Toru_Kawaguchi, Matthias_Kovatsch,
          DarkoAnicic, Barry_Leiba, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
          Michael_Lagally, Kazuo_Kajimoto

   Regrets
          Kunihiko_Toumura

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          dape, kaz

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Quick Updates
         2. [5]Prague Plugfest Documentation
         3. [6]AC Meeting WoT Demo
         4. [7]Korea F2F Planning
         5. [8]Testing
         6. [9]Main call wiki
         7. [10]TPAC 2018
         8. [11]Task Force Reports
               o [12]TD
               o [13]Binding
               o [14]Scripting
               o [15]Security
         9. [16]Additional Editors to the WoT Architecture
            document
     * [17]Summary of Action Items
     * [18]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <kaz> scribenick: dape

Quick Updates

   Matthias: Review for proposed charter for JSON-ld passed last
   Monday
   ... overall support
   ... one change: JSON-LD aligned with RDF
   ... we need to see how this proceeds

   McCool: expectation when will finalized?

   Kaz: W3C managements will discuss conclusion... need to wait
   for this

Prague Plugfest Documentation

   McCool: Panasonic done
   ... some more updates from Intel, Hitachi, Siemens
   ... via PRs

   <kaz> [19]PRs

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pulls

   McCool: Intel is not fully done yet

   Matthias: Siemens, almost ready
   ... Darko still working on
   ... cross testing done with others
   ... miss information people I tested with

   McCool: People could add themselves

   Darko: will add my missing parts this week

   McCool: Do we want to have an overall "results" file?

   Kaz: I think Matsukura-San is working on that

   McCool: Let each company do the merge
   ... not sure about Hitachi

   Kaz: I can do that

   McCool: still in progress... lets wait
   ... Oracle: separate results? Lagally is not here today

   Matthias: lots of content in preparation file already

   <kaz> [has just merged Hitachi's report]

   Matthias: matter of duplicating content

   McCool: Can just add hyperlinks?

   Graeme: Paciello and Eurecom might be a single summary

   Koster: mine is missing also

AC Meeting WoT Demo

   Matthias: would like to share some information
   ... got funding sponsoring ?dinner?
   ... got demo boost
   ... look for others joining
   ... talked with Panasonic
   ... should have live feed with Panasonic
   ... also Fujitsu
   ... McCool smart home demonstrator
   ... others are welcome to join. would be great!

   McCool: logistics: it will be in Berlin
   ... need to figure out how it is the best to ship

   Matthias: 13th of May

   <kaz> [AC Meeting on May 13-15]

   Matthias: industry devices would be nice

   McCool: can run services over network
   ... e.g. OCF
   ... would that be of interest?

   Matthias: showing "glue" between OCF .. cross domain ... would
   be great

   McCool: shipping will be hard till 13th of May
   ... will think about what is best

   Matthias: will put information on members mailing list

   Koster: I don't have anything to just ship

   Matthias: will have monitors in Berlin

   Koster: Great, that may work
   ... will be cloud-to-cloud thing

   Matthias: Adoption in products would be nice

Korea F2F Planning

   Matthias: When and where...
   ... PlugFest will be in same location

   <kaz> [20]f2f wiki

     [20] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_30_June-5_July_2018,_Bundang,_Korea

   Matthias: Grand conference room A
   ... time is still open
   ... 30 June - 5 August

   McCool: what is next?

   Matthias: What to test, better documentation , ...
   ... testing plan is important

   McCool: can discuss this further in testing call

   Kaz: start preparation document again

   McCool: Sponsorship?

   Matthias: TTA
   ... some more sponsoring possible
   ... e.g. for catering
   ... think we need to take car of: Open day speakers
   ... give local people a big slot

   Kaz: logistics: if anyone needs invitation letter please let me
   know as soon as possible

   <kaz> [21]registration site

     [21] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201806/

   McCool: Do registration also as soon as possible

   Lagally: do we have already hotel recommendation ?

   Matthias: There is Word document linked
   ... btw. Google maps not working in Korea... make sure to find
   the right hotel
   ... I booked yet another hotel (Siemens preferred hotel)
   ... will add information

   Barry: i booked "Hotel Gallary"
   ... manual booking needed

   Kaz: shall I copy content from docx to wiki?

   McCool: would be great

Testing

   McCool: had meeting last week
   ... wiki and regular meeting is good idea
   ... not much on wiki yet
   ... will be a meeting today after "this" meeting
   ... mentioned also "Online/persistent tests"
   ... i created "testing" directory
   ... place for online devices
   ... e.g. camera
   ... thing directory and such

   Koster: wondering about scope
   ... only for testing
   ... or real testing process

   McCool: multiple purposes
   ... example for people to look at
   ... testing things

   Koster: there is online interop and testing
   ... think we need more discussion the next hour

   McCool: 3 categories
   ... 1. demo & examples
   ... 2. "Points" test
   ... 3. Pairing of devices

   Kaz: from w3c testing just means checking validation spec
   assertions
   ... being implementable etc

   McCool: spec validation

Main call wiki

   McCool: BTW, while doing agenda I noticed that minute links are
   missing
   ... section was not up-to-date

   Kaz: will update this section

TPAC 2018

   <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to suggest we think about f2f planning
   for TPAC as well

   Kaz: reminder: need to think about TPAC meeting as well

   McCool: Correct, TPAC Lyon France
   ... PlugFest (if any) and where?

   <kaz> [22]TPAC2018 page

     [22] https://www.w3.org/2018/10/TPAC/Overview.html

   McCool: Kaz checks options
   ... last time we had break out section
   ... missed other break-outs?
   ... shall we do it differently next time?
   ... more focus on promoting what we do
   ... we have to request break out session soon
   ... Let's discuss this next meeting more

   Kaz: everyone: please think about your participation
   ... October 20th and 21th
   ... PlugFest sponsorship

   <inserted> [and TPAC itself on Oct. 22-26]

Task Force Reports

* TD

   Matthias: Sebastian is on vacation
   ... he updated master to new simplified version
   ... send out email how to continue
   ... Taki will lead calls on Friday
   ... please provide feedback

   McCool: Is JSON-LD 1.1 group aware of our process

   Matthias: think so.. but will reach out again to them

* Binding

   Koster: Binding templates
   ... doing design review
   ... no meeting this week
   ... will send out more information via email
   ... track new TD changes
   ... publication: update mid May

* Scripting

   Zoltan: Scripting API:
   ... made PR with 1st draft of new API
   ... it is work in progress
   ... anyone can take a look
   ... ExposedThing hasn't changed yet

   <inserted> scribenick: kaz

   Daniel: in the past, many WGs changed specifications on WebIDL
   ... but we concluded it would be good way to continue to use
   WebIDL
   ... besides that we talked about lifecycle
   ... not only relevant for Scripting but also TD
   ... not sure if there is generic solution, though

   McCool: observe and notify changes
   ... Zoltan's comment on scripting api is simple for discovery

   Zoltan: also best effort thing
   ... let's work for it

   Daniel: also how to deal with changes of ID, etc.

   <inserted> scribenick: dape

   Zoltan: depends, create new IDs
   ... can rule out the process
   ... w.r.t. to WebIDL moving to TypeScript
   ... currently there is no official TypeScript spec
   ... W3C does not limit specs to WebIDL

* Security

   McCool: Security :
   ... added security metadata to proposal
   ... added simple and complex proposals
   ... working on proxy
   ... still work in progress
   ... caching tunnels etc
   ... "security metadata" proposal is stable by now
   ... testing meeting next hour
   ... 5 minute break

Additional Editors to the WoT Architecture document

   Kajimoto: architecture document: would like to have Toru-san
   and Matsukura-san to be added to the Editors for the WoT
   Architecture document

   McCool: I have no objection

   Matthias: +1

   [Toru-san and Matsukura-san are approved as additional Editors
   for the WoT Architecture document]

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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