- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 14:38:37 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/05/02-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Daniel!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WoT-IG/WG
02 May 2018
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Michael_Koster,
Daniel_Peintner, Fano_Ramparany, Graeme_Coleman,
Zoltan_Kis, Toru_Kawaguchi, Matthias_Kovatsch,
DarkoAnicic, Barry_Leiba, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
Michael_Lagally, Kazuo_Kajimoto
Regrets
Kunihiko_Toumura
Chair
McCool
Scribe
dape, kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Quick Updates
2. [5]Prague Plugfest Documentation
3. [6]AC Meeting WoT Demo
4. [7]Korea F2F Planning
5. [8]Testing
6. [9]Main call wiki
7. [10]TPAC 2018
8. [11]Task Force Reports
o [12]TD
o [13]Binding
o [14]Scripting
o [15]Security
9. [16]Additional Editors to the WoT Architecture
document
* [17]Summary of Action Items
* [18]Summary of Resolutions
__________________________________________________________
<kaz> scribenick: dape
Quick Updates
Matthias: Review for proposed charter for JSON-ld passed last
Monday
... overall support
... one change: JSON-LD aligned with RDF
... we need to see how this proceeds
McCool: expectation when will finalized?
Kaz: W3C managements will discuss conclusion... need to wait
for this
Prague Plugfest Documentation
McCool: Panasonic done
... some more updates from Intel, Hitachi, Siemens
... via PRs
<kaz> [19]PRs
[19] https://github.com/w3c/wot/pulls
McCool: Intel is not fully done yet
Matthias: Siemens, almost ready
... Darko still working on
... cross testing done with others
... miss information people I tested with
McCool: People could add themselves
Darko: will add my missing parts this week
McCool: Do we want to have an overall "results" file?
Kaz: I think Matsukura-San is working on that
McCool: Let each company do the merge
... not sure about Hitachi
Kaz: I can do that
McCool: still in progress... lets wait
... Oracle: separate results? Lagally is not here today
Matthias: lots of content in preparation file already
<kaz> [has just merged Hitachi's report]
Matthias: matter of duplicating content
McCool: Can just add hyperlinks?
Graeme: Paciello and Eurecom might be a single summary
Koster: mine is missing also
AC Meeting WoT Demo
Matthias: would like to share some information
... got funding sponsoring ?dinner?
... got demo boost
... look for others joining
... talked with Panasonic
... should have live feed with Panasonic
... also Fujitsu
... McCool smart home demonstrator
... others are welcome to join. would be great!
McCool: logistics: it will be in Berlin
... need to figure out how it is the best to ship
Matthias: 13th of May
<kaz> [AC Meeting on May 13-15]
Matthias: industry devices would be nice
McCool: can run services over network
... e.g. OCF
... would that be of interest?
Matthias: showing "glue" between OCF .. cross domain ... would
be great
McCool: shipping will be hard till 13th of May
... will think about what is best
Matthias: will put information on members mailing list
Koster: I don't have anything to just ship
Matthias: will have monitors in Berlin
Koster: Great, that may work
... will be cloud-to-cloud thing
Matthias: Adoption in products would be nice
Korea F2F Planning
Matthias: When and where...
... PlugFest will be in same location
<kaz> [20]f2f wiki
[20] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_30_June-5_July_2018,_Bundang,_Korea
Matthias: Grand conference room A
... time is still open
... 30 June - 5 August
McCool: what is next?
Matthias: What to test, better documentation , ...
... testing plan is important
McCool: can discuss this further in testing call
Kaz: start preparation document again
McCool: Sponsorship?
Matthias: TTA
... some more sponsoring possible
... e.g. for catering
... think we need to take car of: Open day speakers
... give local people a big slot
Kaz: logistics: if anyone needs invitation letter please let me
know as soon as possible
<kaz> [21]registration site
[21] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201806/
McCool: Do registration also as soon as possible
Lagally: do we have already hotel recommendation ?
Matthias: There is Word document linked
... btw. Google maps not working in Korea... make sure to find
the right hotel
... I booked yet another hotel (Siemens preferred hotel)
... will add information
Barry: i booked "Hotel Gallary"
... manual booking needed
Kaz: shall I copy content from docx to wiki?
McCool: would be great
Testing
McCool: had meeting last week
... wiki and regular meeting is good idea
... not much on wiki yet
... will be a meeting today after "this" meeting
... mentioned also "Online/persistent tests"
... i created "testing" directory
... place for online devices
... e.g. camera
... thing directory and such
Koster: wondering about scope
... only for testing
... or real testing process
McCool: multiple purposes
... example for people to look at
... testing things
Koster: there is online interop and testing
... think we need more discussion the next hour
McCool: 3 categories
... 1. demo & examples
... 2. "Points" test
... 3. Pairing of devices
Kaz: from w3c testing just means checking validation spec
assertions
... being implementable etc
McCool: spec validation
Main call wiki
McCool: BTW, while doing agenda I noticed that minute links are
missing
... section was not up-to-date
Kaz: will update this section
TPAC 2018
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to suggest we think about f2f planning
for TPAC as well
Kaz: reminder: need to think about TPAC meeting as well
McCool: Correct, TPAC Lyon France
... PlugFest (if any) and where?
<kaz> [22]TPAC2018 page
[22] https://www.w3.org/2018/10/TPAC/Overview.html
McCool: Kaz checks options
... last time we had break out section
... missed other break-outs?
... shall we do it differently next time?
... more focus on promoting what we do
... we have to request break out session soon
... Let's discuss this next meeting more
Kaz: everyone: please think about your participation
... October 20th and 21th
... PlugFest sponsorship
<inserted> [and TPAC itself on Oct. 22-26]
Task Force Reports
* TD
Matthias: Sebastian is on vacation
... he updated master to new simplified version
... send out email how to continue
... Taki will lead calls on Friday
... please provide feedback
McCool: Is JSON-LD 1.1 group aware of our process
Matthias: think so.. but will reach out again to them
* Binding
Koster: Binding templates
... doing design review
... no meeting this week
... will send out more information via email
... track new TD changes
... publication: update mid May
* Scripting
Zoltan: Scripting API:
... made PR with 1st draft of new API
... it is work in progress
... anyone can take a look
... ExposedThing hasn't changed yet
<inserted> scribenick: kaz
Daniel: in the past, many WGs changed specifications on WebIDL
... but we concluded it would be good way to continue to use
WebIDL
... besides that we talked about lifecycle
... not only relevant for Scripting but also TD
... not sure if there is generic solution, though
McCool: observe and notify changes
... Zoltan's comment on scripting api is simple for discovery
Zoltan: also best effort thing
... let's work for it
Daniel: also how to deal with changes of ID, etc.
<inserted> scribenick: dape
Zoltan: depends, create new IDs
... can rule out the process
... w.r.t. to WebIDL moving to TypeScript
... currently there is no official TypeScript spec
... W3C does not limit specs to WebIDL
* Security
McCool: Security :
... added security metadata to proposal
... added simple and complex proposals
... working on proxy
... still work in progress
... caching tunnels etc
... "security metadata" proposal is stable by now
... testing meeting next hour
... 5 minute break
Additional Editors to the WoT Architecture document
Kajimoto: architecture document: would like to have Toru-san
and Matsukura-san to be added to the Editors for the WoT
Architecture document
McCool: I have no objection
Matthias: +1
[Toru-san and Matsukura-san are approved as additional Editors
for the WoT Architecture document]
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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