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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 17 January 2018

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 17:57:52 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9Uhw+CB-jVA_oiNpoQq87mqXCK-nEVvPJQRALAqmQcoFw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2018/01/17-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Michael Lagally!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                               WoT IG/WG

17 Jan 2018

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Graeme_Coleman, Kunihiko_Touura,
          Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool,
          Taki_Kamiya, Daniel_Peintner, Zoltan_Kis,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima, Toru_Kawaguchi, DarkoAnicic,
          Darko_Anicic, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Soumya_Kanti_Datta,
          Soumya

   Regrets

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          mlagally

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Prague F2F
         2. [5]WoT Accessibility
         3. [6]TF reports
         4. [7]Thing Description
         5. [8]Scripting API
         6. [9]Binding
         7. [10]Security
     * [11]Summary of Action Items
     * [12]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <scribe> scribenick: mlagally

Prague F2F

   McCool: quick updates?
   ... Prague F2F, please go to F2F Wiki page and add info
   ... working for open day, already one proposal
   ... (OCF)

   <kaz> [13]event page

     [13] https://www.w3.org/participate/eventscal.html

   Kaz: I added F2F info to W3C event page

   McCool: logistics need to be sorted out in plugfest meeting
   ... understood that Siemens is working on that
   ... please link to stable versions e.g. for API

WoT Accessibility

   [14]Graeme's slides

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/PRESENTATIONS/GC-WoT-WG_Accessibility
2017-01-17.pdf

   Graeme presents WoT and Accessibility

   Graeme: overview of Paciello's group involvement in W3C
   ... potential use for healthcare, smart home ... but several
   challenges for accessibility
   ... include accessibility alternative (e.g. non-text
   alternatives)
   ... presents 3 use case examples (see slides)
   ... pls. let us know where we should be involved

   McCool: do you come to next plugfest / TPAC?

   Graeme: need to check

   McCool: TPAC?

   Graeme: need to check

   McCool: accessibility: internal and external aspect
   ... interesting work to do, fits into the framework, plugfest
   participation would be useful

   Graeme: f2f might help

   McCool: we should capture some of those for the PF
   ... narrow down to a set of use cases for PF
   ... e.g. speech interface, visual wording, ...

   Kaz: I worked on UI and multi-mode interfaces before
   ... am interested in accessibility use cases

   Graeme: would be great to get you involved

   McCool: please send presentation to me / kaz

TF reports

Thing Description

   Darko: alignment between TD and Mozilla proposal still ongoing,
   consolidation planned for Friday's TD TF call

   McCool: deadline for plugfest proposal?

   Kaz: Sebastian will merge all updates by end of month

   McCool: adding goal PF freeze to agenda

Scripting API

   Zoltan: preparing for PF, working on dynamic properties
   ... how is scripting a TD is not mature, need implementation
   experiences
   ... need to talk with TD and protocol binding TF
   ... how scripts handle protocol bindings

   Koster: structure of a dynamic TD is another issue

   Zoltan: algorithm for registering a TD is not specified yet
   ... TD change notifications will be sent, several options exist
   - need to be discussed
   ... we should make this very lean, need to discuss use cases

   Koster: need to solve it interoperable in the scripting API

   McCool+Koster: discuss about how to handle dynamic properties

   <inserted> (discussion on how to involve stakeholders from
   other ecosystems)

   McCool: mk and I did a lot on OCF, mk also did zigbee
   ... COAP should be doable
   ... we should document target ecosystems

   Koster: we should update our material to include info about
   that

   McCool: should we have arch taskforce to look into that?
   Lifecycle must go into architecture document

   Zoltan: need reproducible setup, e.g. for OCF

   Koster: will add to PF planning
   ... goals for plugfest t.b.defined

   Zoltan: security is very important, provisioning in different
   security realms ... need examples and document how this is done

   McCool: each use case should have a security plan

   Zoltan: every participant should have a setup/provisioning
   document

   McCool: let'S discuss in PF call
   ... API freeze date for PF?

   Zoltan: will have answer next week

Binding

   <kaz> [15]Pull Request 20

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/20

   Koster: we changed the form to make sure all type constructs
   look the same, I fixed some examples
   ... 2nd change: remove the value type
   ... values were used for ranges and constant - we don't need an
   extra layer, but just use "const" for constants
   ... need to sync with Sebastian, get it on Friday's TD agenda
   ... presented document is in pull request

   <kaz> [16]updated file on Koster's repo

     [16] https://rawgit.com/mjkoster/wot-binding-templates/initial-spec-contribution/index.html

Security

   <inserted> McCool: NDSS paper accepted. added preliminary f2f
   topics on the f2f wiki
   [17]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_201
   8,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Input

     [17] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_24-29_March_2018,_Prague,_Czech_Republic#Input

   McCool: need to enforce a security plan for all use cases - can
   be blank though
   ... discuss in PF call
   ... AOB?

   meeting adjourned

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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