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[wot-ig/wg] minutes - 4 October 2017

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 14:22:40 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9UuDTYFNZvo6YezemVvsQOWLfAesjjVw3RStbybBwR_TQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2017/10/04-wot-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                               WoT IG/WG

04 Oct 2017

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/10/04-wot-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Michael_Koster,
          Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Takeshi_Yamada,
          Uday_Davuluru, Zoltan_Kis, Daniel_Peintner,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Taki_Kamiya, Soumya_Kanti_Datta,
          Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          Matthias, Kajimooto

   Chair
          McCool

   Scribe
          kaz_

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]TPAC/PlugFest registration
         2. [6]node-wot update
         3. [7]IoT dev fest talk
         4. [8]security workshop
         5. [9]editor training
         6. [10]TPAC logistics
         7. [11]Presentations/Discussions
         8. [12]TF reports
         9. [13]TD
        10. [14]Scripting
        11. [15]Binding
        12. [16]Security
        13. [17]AOB
        14. [18]Editor's training on the Repository Manager
        15. [19]Infoshare
        16. [20]Banner poster for PlugFest
     * [21]Summary of Action Items
     * [22]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <scribe> scribenick: kaz_

TPAC/PlugFest registration

   kaz:Please get registered for TPAC and PlugFest asap!

   [23]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2017/ TPAC

     [23] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2017/

   [24]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTPlugFest201711/
   PlugFest

     [24] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTPlugFest201711/

node-wot update

   dape: cleaning node-wot
   ... still working with Eclipse

   mccool: changing the license is good starting point

   kaz: talking with plh and we can move node-wot from external
   repo to the W3C repo if I can get admin permisison for the
   external one
   ... still need to check with wendy if we really want to have 2
   licenses at once

   dape: more complex to have multiple licenses
   ... so having only one license would be easier

   mccool: meaning only W3C license?

   dape: yes, and will check again
   ... would like to move node-wot repo to eclipse repo

   <dape> see [25]https://github.com/eclipse/

     [25] https://github.com/eclipse/

   kaz: not the w3c repo?

   mccool: let's talk about the detail separately during the
   Chairs call

   kaz: ok

IoT dev fest talk

   mccool: submitted

   [26]https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2017/09/06/global-io
   t-devfest-returns-bigger-better

     [26] https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2017/09/06/global-iot-devfest-returns-bigger-better

   mccool: me and koster invited to give talks

security workshop

   mccool: IEEE S&P proposal rejected
   ... so we'll focus on the NDSS one

editor training

   mccool: deferred

   kaz: schedule part could be done during the TF calls
   ... e.g., TD

   mccool: ok

TPAC logistics

   mccool: 2 registrations
   ... please get registered asap

   TPAC registration:
   [27]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2017/

     [27] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2017/

   Plugfest registration:
   [28]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTPlugFest201711/

     [28] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTPlugFest201711/

   mccool: monday, kind of open day
   ... meetings with related groups
   ... listed on the wiki
   ... plugfest preparation
   ... weekly call 1 hour before this main call
   ... btw, is there any information on the possible dinner?

   kaz: 2 possibilities
   ... plugfest dinner or tpac dinner

   [29]https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/

     [29] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/

   kaz: meetup on Mon, AC dinner on Tue, reception on Wed

   mccool: anybody going to the meetup?

   [30]https://www.w3.org/2017/11/Meetup/

     [30] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/Meetup/

   kaz: possible light reception

   mccool: maybe we can have a doodle poll?

   kaz: ok
   ... also please get registered with TPAC and PlugFest asap

   mccool: plugfest logistics?

   taki: booked a room at Fujitsu facility
   ... will ask the security people to accept you in the morning
   ... note I'll have the EXI meeting in the evening on Sunday
   ... so some people would have difficulty with dinner on Sunday

Presentations/Discussions

   later

TF reports

TD

   sebastian: last week we had brainstorming on major changes for
   TD
   ... going to apply in the plugfest
   ... went through to see what would be reasonable
   ... 2 problems need clarifications this week
   ... to be applied to TPAC
   ... will continue the discussion this Friday

Scripting

   zoltan: mainly discussed Dave's proposal
   ... relevant to this main call as well
   ... creating remote Things

   mccool: create issues (one for Scripting API and another for
   Security) on GitHub?

   zoltan: this is a big topic recently introduced by Dave
   ... would invite you all for comments
   ... McCool, you also can put the issue for the security side
   ... Dave, maybe you can give some comments?

   <kaz> [31]https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/64
   Issue on Scripting API

     [31] https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/64

   <dsr> [32]https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/352 Issue on
   Security

     [32] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/352

   zoltan: files as an issue for wot
   ... should be moved to wot-security
   ... btw, wot-security should be linked from the wotwg repo as
   well

   mccool: will add that

   zoltan: and then move wot/issues/352 to wot-security

   mccool: just added the link to wot-security on wotwg/REAME.md

   dsr: will move the issue to wot-security

Binding

   koster: payload structure instead of having separate templates
   for the whole JSON things
   ... I need to generate a new section for the document
   ... quite a bit of discussions during the last 2 calls
   ... ongoing discussion
   ... got some good ideas
   ... go forward with the protocols
   ... including websocket proposal by Mozilla
   ... also how to handle Eventing
   ... can listen on websocket but how to handle Events
   ... also need to create subscription
   ... high level interaction
   ... right now just subscribed and get events
   ... also push pattern
   ... how Events go out
   ... and what protocol binding looks like at proxy
   ... automatically subscribed to some Thing
   ... need to figure out the schedule

Security

   mccool: Elena was not available
   ... so cleaned up the existing issues
   ... e.g., the threat model

   <McCool>
   [33]https://rawgit.com/w3c/wot-security/working/index.html

     [33] https://rawgit.com/w3c/wot-security/working/index.html

   mccool: rendered version above
   ... lot of Editors notes to fill in missing pieces
   ... entire threat model has been included here
   ... also some scenario
   ... still missing industry scenario, etc.
   ... also still working with the working branch
   ... Elena working on use cases
   ... cleaned up references
   ... please file issues if any problems
   ... all the stuff of the threat model has definition

AOB

   mccool: anything?

   kaz: please get registered asap!
   ... the deadline for early registration is Oct 6

Editor's training on the Repository Manager

   <Zakim> dape, you wanted to editor traning now

   [34]Kaz's slides on Repository Manager

     [34] https://www.w3.org/2017/Talks/0608-ash-nazg-ka/

   kaz: (goes through the slides)

   sebastian: how does that work?

   kaz: Kaz gives some more explanation and mentions Team Contact
   will help you all :)

   mccool: what about wot-security?

   kaz: wot-security is WG note, so we don't need this

Infoshare

   <dsr> Just to say that I have been invited to give a
   presentation on behalf of W3C to a European Commission workshop
   on October 17, see
   [35]https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/events/cf/worksh
   op-on-ict-standardisation-in-support-of-digitising-and-transfor
   ming-european-industry/register.cfm

     [35] https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/events/cf/workshop-on-ict-standardisation-in-support-of-digitising-and-transforming-european-industry/register.cfm

   mccool: when?

   dsr: oct. 17

   mccool: Yongjing also will give some talk at ETSI Workshop
   ... we could share information
   ... can review your slides as well

   dsr: not too much technical

   mccool: we need to work together

   kaz: there was a specific area for presentation

   mccool: we should collaborate to generate some standard slides
   ... maybe we can check with Yongjing as well

   dsr: Yongjing will be back next week
   ... can talk with you, Michael McCool, this week

Banner poster for PlugFest

   sebastian: role-up poster on WoT core ideas?
   ... for Wednesday demo during TPAC?

   mccool: let's discuss it next week

   kaz: meaning the banner posters?

   sebastian: yes

   mccool: will add that to the next agenda

   sebastian: we can find the previous one as the starting point

   dape: yes

   <dape> see
   [36]https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2016-lisbon

     [36] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2016-lisbon

   mccool: added that to the agenda for Oct 11

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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