- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 01:23:30 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2017/11/29-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Sebastian and Matthias!
Kazuyuki
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[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT IG/WG
29 Nov 2017
Attendees
Present
Michael_McCool, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura,
Michael_Lagally, Takuki_Kamiya, Toru_Kawagucyi,
Uday_Davuluru, Grame_Coleman, Michael_Koster,
Tomoaki_Mizushima, Daniel_Peintner, Matthias_Kovatsch,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Barry_Leiba, Keiichi_Tokuyama,
DarkoAnicic, Darko_Anicic, Yongjing_Zhang
Regrets
Dave_Raggett
Chair
Matthias, McCool, Yongjing
Scribe
sebastian, mkovatsc
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Agenda
2. [4]Next F2F co-located with IETF
3. [5]TF reports and publication schedule
4. [6]Security TF
5. [7]Protocol Binding TF
6. [8]Sebastian on TD TF
7. [9]Daniel on Scripting
8. [10]More input?
* [11]Summary of Action Items
* [12]Summary of Resolutions
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<kaz> scribenick: sebastian
Agenda
Matthias: more or less sync update telco today
McCool: Did we review the TPAC minutes?
<kaz> [13]TPAC minutes
[13] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html
Matthias: Have the TFs already reviewed and agreed on the
minutes?
Security has not
TD TF did a recap via slides, not via minutes
<mkovatsc>
[14]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
[14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
Kaz: We should agree on the official minutes
TD TF will do it during the next TD call
Decision: TF Modelrators to review the TPAC minutes and approve
the minutes during the main call next Wednesday
Next F2F co-located with IETF
<kaz> [15]F2F/publication plan
[15] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html#plan
will be in March, 24th-28th in Prague
<mkovatsc> Next F2F: Prague, March 23 + 24--29
McCool: We should also coordinate with IETF T2TRG
<kaz> [16]IETF event calendar
[16] https://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html
<kaz> [17]OCF event calendar
[17] https://openconnectivity.org/events
Matthias: We should have the T2TRG and OCF meeting on 23rd
March
<kaz> [23 March 2018 is Friday]
McCool: Try to get feedback from OCF about this joint meeting
date
Koster: We should demonstrate OCF what we are doing at WoT
Matthias: Other group can stay until Saturday to see demos
Koster: We should invite people to join WoT PlugFests
McCool: We need funding
Matthias: We check if Siemens will do it
TF reports and publication schedule
<kaz> [18]publication plan discussed during TPAC f2f
[18] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html#plan
Security TF
[19]Security TF call minutes - 13 Nov 2017
[19] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/13-wot-sec-minutes.html
[20]Security TF call minutes - 20 Nov 2017
[20] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/20-wot-sec-minutes.html
<mkovatsc> [21]https://github.com/mmccool/ndss-wot-sec
[21] https://github.com/mmccool/ndss-wot-sec
McCool: still need more work on the draft
... everything is there, however, still too rough
... provide updates every 2 months
... industry use cases needs still some investigations.
... call for volunteers
<kaz> [22]Security&Privacy considerations draft
[22] https://rawgit.com/w3c/wot-security/master/index.html
McCool: W3C Note will be released in 2 weeks and updated every
2 month
Kaz: have sent out the transition request for the Note
publication. working with McCool and Elena for editorial tweaks
for the publication. The first Note should be going to be
published next week.
Protocol Binding TF
Protocol Binding TF
Koster: Have some inputs for TD TF
... there is a PR. Need to be accepted
<kaz> [23]Binding minutes (Member-only)
[23] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/28-wot-minutes.html
Koster: presents new inputs on Friday in TD TF telco
Matthias: Proposal change 'link' to 'form' etc.
<mkovatsc> scribeNick:mkovatsc
Sebastian on TD TF
Sebastian: Need to face Mozilla TD proposal and prepare
simplified versions of our JSON-LD serialization
... Defaults could click into place, e.g., HTTP and JSON to
have less explicit entries in the TD
... Need to evaluate the Mozilla+Evrythng proposal and answer
open questions (e.g., how it behaves for more complex scenarios
with Action with input and output)
... Need the inputs from Binding Templates
... Decide on the new release: what shall be integrted
... Will be beginning of next year
Koster: Can start discussion (with Binding Templates) in two
weeks
... Might want form part more dynamically updatable
Sebastian: Doodle for new TD call time
<sebastian> [24]https://doodle.com/poll/tgf9r2fettk8yf57
[24] https://doodle.com/poll/tgf9r2fettk8yf57
Sebastian: ends tomorrow to make decision on Friday
... Question about the length: We extended from 1h to 1.5h
... Kaz recommended to go back to 1h
... Should we although 1h was usually not enough and we
virtually always had overtime
... For 1h, SK has to restrict the number of topics per call
... Please think about this and comment on Friday in the TD
call
Kaz: I assumed no TD call this Friday, but apparently you
planned to
Sebastian: Planned to have it this Friday and it will be the
last one on Friday
... New time slot from next week onward
... Time this Friday will be as usual
... 8:30 CET
Kaz: I have a conflict this Friday
... 1h earlier possible?
Sebastian: Want to avoid because participation is already low
... Can have shorter call
Taki: I will arrive late this Friday, so later is good for me
Kaz: Later also good for me
Sebastian: How long? 1h or 30 min only?
... Impact on my topic planning
Decision: TD call this Friday starts 30 min late at 9:00 CET
Daniel on Scripting
<kaz> [25]Scripting minutes (Member-only)
[25] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/27-wot-minutes.html
Daniel: Inlcuded feedback from PlugFest/TPAC
... Will start implementation
... Need to align Linked Data Type System with Scripting Type
System
Matthias: Type System should still be JSON Schema in practice.
Am I missing something?
Daniel: Alignment is about what is passed in the Init objects
for addProperty() etc.
... We want to align the passed arguments with TD syntax
Koster: There was also an idea about range and units etc.
Daniel: Yes, JSON Schema already includes min/max and is also
in the LD system
More input?
no
Adjourned
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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