- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:31:30 +0900
- To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2017/11/15-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking these minutes, Michael Koster!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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WoT IG/WG
15 Nov 2017
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Touura,
Michael_Lagally, Taki_Kamiya, Michael_Koster,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Toru_Kawaguchi,
Kazuo_Kajimoto, Masato_Ohura, Keiichi_Tokuyama
Regrets
Chair
McCool
Scribe
mjkoster
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]welcome Michael Lagally
2. [5]ietf100 presentation on WoT and semantic
interoperability
3. [6]publication plan
4. [7]TPAC wrap up
5. [8]reports from Task Forces
6. [9]collaboration
7. [10]TD call this Friday
8. [11]collaboration (revisited)
9. [12]thanks to Fujitsu for PlugFest preparation
logistics
* [13]Summary of Action Items
* [14]Summary of Resolutions
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welcome Michael Lagally
<mlagally> I have audio issues - mlagally is fine
<mlagally> thanks for welcome - I'll introduce myself later
ietf100 presentation on WoT and semantic interoperability
<kaz> [15]McCool's slides
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/PRESENTATIONS/IoT,
Semantic Interop, and Voice Control - McCool.pdf
publication plan
<kaz> scribenick: kaz
mccool: discussed the plan during TPAC
... what about binding?
mjkoster: document expected by the end of year
mjkoster: have problem with editing wiki
<kaz> [16]publication plan (slide 8)
[16] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/wot-f2f/slides/2017_F2F-Burlingame-Next.pdf
kaz: put the slides on publication plan above
... slide 8 of the pdf
mccool: ok
... (goes through the slides)
TPAC wrap up
<kaz> scribenick: mjkoster
<kaz> [17]draft compiled minutes from TPAC meetings
[17] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html
mccool: archive presentations and posters
kaz: we can use the github for that purpose, or we can use the
W3C official server for that purpose as well (the same
directory as the minutes file) send to Kaz for archiving
mccool: posters are archived with thumbnail images
... should rename presentations with prefix and ordering
... please create issues in the issue tracker to capture
feedback from the meeting
<kaz> [18]PlugFest posters
[18] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2017-burlingame/Posters
mccool: on the appropriate repo
reports from Task Forces
<kaz> [19]draft minutes
[19] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html
sebastian: no news since last week
... we used the new TD structure with observe flag and
input/output data construct
<kaz> [20]TDs for PlugFest in Burlingame
[20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2017-burlingame/TDs
sebastian: but not many are using the new features
... at the breakout session we had some discussion about
improvements
... data type definitions
... also discussed the stability flag which was in a previous
TD
... also discussed hierarchy, grouping structure
<kaz> [21]TD discussion on Day 1
[21] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html#nov6-item08
<kaz> [22]Hierarchies in TD
[22] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html#nov7-item05
sebastian: also discussed integration of protocol bindings
... good input for planning the next few weeks work
mccool: included new features in TD but it was not
automatically consumed
sebastian: there was also some focus on proxies
... a new big topic is the simple JSON TD representation
... the simple JSON could be a default
... omitting the more difficult items like media type
mccool: created a breakdown of sub-features to analyze this
issue
... also may help improve the json-ld version
... created issues in the TD repo
... suggesting 3 sections for interactions, specializing on
events, actions, and properties descriptions
<kaz> [23]TD issues
[23] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/
mccool: for example, the only place @type is required is to
name the interaction type
... scripting TF report?
<kaz> (Zoltan or Nimura-san not here)
mccool: protocol bindings?
mjkoster: had some binding features manually evaluated at the
plugfest
mccool: security TF, working on the paper to be submitted for
NDIS conference
... an issue came up about authentication for semantic search
... including discussion of authenticated search and discovery
in the paper
<kaz> [24]NDSS DISS 2018 Workshop Paper on WoT Security Model
[24] https://github.com/mmccool/ndss-wot-sec
mccool: we should write up more about the thing directory
... maybe a note
... will be on vacation and travel for next 2 weeks
... expect to be busy on the paper between the 1st and the 8th
... asking Elena to run the security meetings for the next 2
weeks
... pointer to the meeting minutes with this discussion
<kaz> [25]draft minutes
[25] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/04-08-wot-minutes.html
mccool: send comments to Kaz
... and he will update the minutes
collaboration
mccool: may be time to re-open the OCF liaison
... will be at the same location in the spring in Prague
... iot.schema.org has some issues and needs more work
... want to feed these issues back into the development
... github issues on iotschema-collab
... https should be used on iotschema
... schema.org doesn't use https
[26]https://github.com/iot-schema-collab/iotschema/issues
[26] https://github.com/iot-schema-collab/iotschema/issues
mkoster to add an issue on iotschema repo about https
mccool: need to present WoT to OCF
mjkoster: suggest using Thing Description and RDF as a hogh
level language to use in OCF Oneiota tool
mccool: even if they don't adopt RDF, the ontologies provide
useful information
need to engage the OCF DM group and Smart Home group
mccool: also need to move forward with oneM2M
mjkoster: suggest a presentation we can have prepared to talk
about semantic interoperability with other organizations
... zigbee alliance also is talking about having a universal
language for IoT
mccool: we should look at the data models from other orgs and
make iotschema definitions
kajimoto: what is the goal of the iot schema.org activity?
... how does it work with WoT
mjkoster: the relationship between iotschema and W3C WoT is for
iotschema to adopt the interaction model meta-classes of event,
action, and property
... iotschema is a venue for domain experts from different
industries to specialize their work on the semantic definitions
that are needed for their industry
... for example, automotive experts can form a task group and
create definitions for the automotive industry
... likewise, healthcare, automotive, etc.
... these definitions will be compatible with W3C TD because of
the use of the common interaction model of events, actions, and
properties
<kaz> kajimoto: what is the relationship between iotscheme and
schema.org?
mjkoster: iotschema is expected to become part of schema.org,
with common tools and representations such that developers
using schema.org can easily add WoT functionality to their
applications
... however, iotschema will need to have a new governance
structure to accommodate the new contributors and diverse
schema definitions
... the IPR model for iotschema follows schema.org, using the
CC sharealike license, which is very permissive
... we are not planning to publish any definitions that have
IPR claims attached to them
... finally, we will write up more of the above into our
charter document for iotschema
TD call this Friday
sebastian: topic: should we have a TD meeting on Friday
... who can not make it to the meeting on Friday?
... need to ask on email to see if we can get enough people
collaboration (revisited)
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention the great achievement of the
orchestrated plugfest and appreciate the great support of
Fujitsu for that
kaz: we already have a liaison with OCF but not yet with
onem2m?
mccool: the OCF liaison is not complete because of an IPR
question
... mkoster and mccool are still able to be informal liaison as
members of both organizations
... if we can get OCF to adopt TD, then we will need a tighter
relationship
kaz: the informal liaison is OK for now, also with oneM2M with
yongjing as co-member
mccool: again, if we can get iotschema definitions for these
ecosystems, we can have a better chance to engage
thanks to Fujitsu for PlugFest preparation logistics
kaz: would like to acknowledge Fujitsu for all the support of
the plugfest
mccool: should generate a list of feedback items
kaz: thanks to Taki for all the work and support
mccool: move to adjourn
<kaz> [ adjourned ]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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