[WoT+NGSI-LD] minutes - 28 October 2024

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2024/10/28-ngsi-minutes.html


also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking notes, Michael Koster!

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] https://www.w3.org/


                             – DRAFT –
                            WoT and NGSI-LD

28 October 2024

   [2]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/2024/10/28-ngsi-irc


Attendees

   Present
          Ege_Korkan, Franck_Le_Gall, Juanjo_Hierro, Kaz_Ashimura,
          Ken_Zangelin, Martin_Bauer, Michael_Koster,
          Michael_McCool, Rigo_Wenning

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          McCool, Kaz

   Scribe
          kaz, mjk

Contents

    1. [3]Logistics
    2. [4]Minutes
    3. [5]Liaison table
    4. [6]Logistics - revisited
    5. [7]TPAC
         1. [8]WoT F2F
         2. [9]Smart Cities
    6. [10]WoT-ETSI liaison
         1. [11]Date
         2. [12]Deliverables
    7. [13]Summary of action items
    8. [14]Summary of resolutions

Meeting minutes

  Logistics

   McCool: sorry we had to cancel the previous call 2 weeks ago
   due to the overlapping WoT CG call
   … we'll avoid this kind of confusion in the future
   … let's confirm the daylight saving change for 2 weeks

   [ European Summer Time started yesterday; US Daylight Saving
   will start on Nov 3 ]

   [15]Daylight Saving changes

     [15] https://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html


  Minutes

   <kaz> [16]Sep-13

     [16] https://www.w3.org/2024/09/13-ngsi-minutes.html


   Kaz: any problems with the minutes?

   McCool: there is a typo

   Kaz: can we approve the minutes?

  Liaison table

   McCool: we would like to start with deliverables and logistics

   <kaz> [17]Liaison table (ETSI)

     [17] https://www.w3.org/liaisons/#ETSI


   Kaz: first liaison table

  Logistics - revisited

   Kaz: I'll send a reminder to Juanjo and ask him to create a W3C
   account

   McCool: how do we organize agendas and documents?
   … a github repo allows us to organize information in markdown
   files if people are OK with .md files

   McCool: we can set up a process and permissions for merging
   … any comments?:

   Martin: OK with me

   Kaz: for this discussion should we use the wiki or md files in
   a directory on Github?

   McCool: the wiki is good for agendas and such but storage is
   limited, so Github is better for other content

   Kaz: we can create the resources

   McCool: we need a name

   <McCool> suggestion for wiki name: "WoT/NGSI-LD Liaison"

   McCool: is this OK?

   Kaz: we usually include IG or WG in the title

   McCool: it may not always be one WoT group involved
   … is it a strict policy?

   Kaz: not strict

   <kaz> "WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison"

   <McCool> for github repo, propose wot-ngsi

   McCool: ask Kaz to create the resources accordingly

   McCool: we also need a name for the Github repo

   <McCool> ok, then wot-ngsi-ld

   <McCool> github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld

   <McCool> for irc channel, let's also use "wot-ngsi-ld"

   <kaz> proposal: "WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison" as the wiki name,
   "w3c/wot-ngsi-ld" as the GitHub repo name, and "wot-ngsi-ld" as
   the IRC name

   McCool: any objections to these names?

   (none)

   RESOLUTION: "WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison" as the wiki name,
   "w3c/wot-ngsi-ld" as the GitHub repo name, and "wot-ngsi-ld" as
   the IRC name

   ACTION: Kaz to create a wiki, GitHub repo and IRC channel as
   confirmed

  TPAC

    WoT F2F

   <kaz> [18]WoT F2F Day 1 minutes

     [18] https://www.w3.org/2024/09/26-wot-minutes.html#t09


   McCool: suggest modeling the liaison after the OPC
   collaboration

   McCool: we can use the protocol binding registry

    Smart Cities

   McCool: can we review the Smart City IG minutes?

   <kaz> [19]minutes

     [19] https://www.w3.org/2024/09/25-smartcities-minutes.html


   McCool: the expected deliverables and use case section is
   interesting

   Kaz: we use the definition of Digital Twin from ITU
   … we expect to start regular monthly calls in November
   … the participants in this NGSI liaison are invited

   McCool: in the WoT group, we are developing use cases and
   refining requirements based on user stories
   … we could use a similar process for this work

   Kaz: we might want to clarify the relationship between the WoT
   group and the Smart City IG

   McCool: we have a collaboration relationship and can get
   requirements for new WoT features
   … we had a long meeting with Rob Atkinson about the geospatial
   location topic

   Kaz: we will have shared discussions regarding use cases and
   detailed requirements

  WoT-ETSI liaison

   <kaz> [20][DRAFT] WoT WG/ETSI ISG CIM Simple Liaison for
   NGSI-LD

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md


   McCool: we need to update the liaison document to capture some
   action items
   … propose to copy the liaison document into the Github repo and
   make PRs to the active document

    Date

   McCool: we should update the schedule to a 2025 date

   Kaz: should we update the document in the WoT repository?

   <kaz> [21]wot repo's official liaison area

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/liaisons


   McCool: I will make a PR to move the proposal over to the
   active liaisons directory

    Deliverables

   McCool: we talk about publishers and consumers
   … the Binding Document has considerations of vocabulary and
   scope
   … sometimes there are required extensions that require extra
   work

   Juanjo: do we have agreement on the first deliverable?
   … if someone provides a ThingModel, we should be able to derive
   a ThingDescription

   McCool: we reviewed a ThingModel catalog from which tooling
   derives instances of ThingDescriptions
   … there are existing directory services, etc.
   … what are the gaps and where do we need glue?

   Martin: do we need more use cases?

   McCool: we already have a Smart City use case, are there
   reusable items from what we have?

   Martin: I was thinking things of a more technical nature
   … technical use cases, the first step of refinement

   McCool: In our process, we connect use cases to features using
   requirements as user stories
   … there are also use case scenarios with detailed documentation

   Kaz: everyone should bring existing resources around use cases
   and requirements, then we can see what is missing

   McCool: the first step is to get organized
   … then we can do gap analysis
   … need to break it down to organized topics
   … collect links and put then in one place
   … let me get the charter created and next time we can discuss
   how to organize things

   Kaz: we need action items

   McCool: I will create an agenda for the next meeting
   … November 11th

   ACTION: McCool to put agenda on the wiki, and update the
   ngsi-ld.md with proposals (and make a PR to move it from
   "proposals" area to "liaisons" area"

   Kaz: Juanjo, please create a W3C account so that you can access
   the WoT resources like the wiki, the mail archive and the
   GitHub repo

   ACTION: Kaz to send a reminder to Juanjo about how to create a
   W3C account

   McCool: any final thoughts?

   McCool: thanks everyone, sorry for the confusion

   McCool: adjourned

Summary of action items

    1. [22]Kaz to create a wiki, GitHub repo and IRC channel as
       confirmed
    2. [23]McCool to put agenda on the wiki, and update the
       ngsi-ld.md with proposals (and make a PR to move it from
       "proposals" area to "liaisons" area"
    3. [24]Kaz to send a reminder to Juanjo about how to create a
       W3C account

Summary of resolutions

    1. [25]"WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison" as the wiki name,
       "w3c/wot-ngsi-ld" as the GitHub repo name, and
       "wot-ngsi-ld" as the IRC name


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