Re: [WoT+NGSI-LD] minutes - 28 October 2024

Hi all,

Based on the action item from the previous meeting on Oct 28,
I've just created:
* GitHub repo: https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld

* Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD

* IRC: https://irc.w3.org/?channels=wot-ngsi-ld


Thanks,

Kazuyuki


On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 00:18:23 +0900,
Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
> 
> available at:
>   https://www.w3.org/2024/10/28-ngsi-minutes.html

> 
> also as text below.
> 
> Thanks a lot for taking notes, Michael Koster!
> 
> Kazuyuki
> 
> ---
>    [1]W3C
> 
>       [1] https://www.w3.org/

> 
>                              – DRAFT –
>                             WoT and NGSI-LD
> 
> 28 October 2024
> 
>    [2]IRC log.
> 
>       [2] https://www.w3.org/2024/10/28-ngsi-irc

> 
> Attendees
> 
>    Present
>           Ege_Korkan, Franck_Le_Gall, Juanjo_Hierro, Kaz_Ashimura,
>           Ken_Zangelin, Martin_Bauer, Michael_Koster,
>           Michael_McCool, Rigo_Wenning
> 
>    Regrets
>           -
> 
>    Chair
>           McCool, Kaz
> 
>    Scribe
>           kaz, mjk
> 
> Contents
> 
>     1. [3]Logistics
>     2. [4]Minutes
>     3. [5]Liaison table
>     4. [6]Logistics - revisited
>     5. [7]TPAC
>          1. [8]WoT F2F
>          2. [9]Smart Cities
>     6. [10]WoT-ETSI liaison
>          1. [11]Date
>          2. [12]Deliverables
>     7. [13]Summary of action items
>     8. [14]Summary of resolutions
> 
> Meeting minutes
> 
>   Logistics
> 
>    McCool: sorry we had to cancel the previous call 2 weeks ago
>    due to the overlapping WoT CG call
>    … we'll avoid this kind of confusion in the future
>    … let's confirm the daylight saving change for 2 weeks
> 
>    [ European Summer Time started yesterday; US Daylight Saving
>    will start on Nov 3 ]
> 
>    [15]Daylight Saving changes
> 
>      [15] https://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html

> 
>   Minutes
> 
>    <kaz> [16]Sep-13
> 
>      [16] https://www.w3.org/2024/09/13-ngsi-minutes.html

> 
>    Kaz: any problems with the minutes?
> 
>    McCool: there is a typo
> 
>    Kaz: can we approve the minutes?
> 
>   Liaison table
> 
>    McCool: we would like to start with deliverables and logistics
> 
>    <kaz> [17]Liaison table (ETSI)
> 
>      [17] https://www.w3.org/liaisons/#ETSI

> 
>    Kaz: first liaison table
> 
>   Logistics - revisited
> 
>    Kaz: I'll send a reminder to Juanjo and ask him to create a W3C
>    account
> 
>    McCool: how do we organize agendas and documents?
>    … a github repo allows us to organize information in markdown
>    files if people are OK with .md files
> 
>    McCool: we can set up a process and permissions for merging
>    … any comments?:
> 
>    Martin: OK with me
> 
>    Kaz: for this discussion should we use the wiki or md files in
>    a directory on Github?
> 
>    McCool: the wiki is good for agendas and such but storage is
>    limited, so Github is better for other content
> 
>    Kaz: we can create the resources
> 
>    McCool: we need a name
> 
>    <McCool> suggestion for wiki name: "WoT/NGSI-LD Liaison"
> 
>    McCool: is this OK?
> 
>    Kaz: we usually include IG or WG in the title
> 
>    McCool: it may not always be one WoT group involved
>    … is it a strict policy?
> 
>    Kaz: not strict
> 
>    <kaz> "WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison"
> 
>    <McCool> for github repo, propose wot-ngsi
> 
>    McCool: ask Kaz to create the resources accordingly
> 
>    McCool: we also need a name for the Github repo
> 
>    <McCool> ok, then wot-ngsi-ld
> 
>    <McCool> github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld
> 
>    <McCool> for irc channel, let's also use "wot-ngsi-ld"
> 
>    <kaz> proposal: "WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison" as the wiki name,
>    "w3c/wot-ngsi-ld" as the GitHub repo name, and "wot-ngsi-ld" as
>    the IRC name
> 
>    McCool: any objections to these names?
> 
>    (none)
> 
>    RESOLUTION: "WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison" as the wiki name,
>    "w3c/wot-ngsi-ld" as the GitHub repo name, and "wot-ngsi-ld" as
>    the IRC name
> 
>    ACTION: Kaz to create a wiki, GitHub repo and IRC channel as
>    confirmed
> 
>   TPAC
> 
>     WoT F2F
> 
>    <kaz> [18]WoT F2F Day 1 minutes
> 
>      [18] https://www.w3.org/2024/09/26-wot-minutes.html#t09

> 
>    McCool: suggest modeling the liaison after the OPC
>    collaboration
> 
>    McCool: we can use the protocol binding registry
> 
>     Smart Cities
> 
>    McCool: can we review the Smart City IG minutes?
> 
>    <kaz> [19]minutes
> 
>      [19] https://www.w3.org/2024/09/25-smartcities-minutes.html

> 
>    McCool: the expected deliverables and use case section is
>    interesting
> 
>    Kaz: we use the definition of Digital Twin from ITU
>    … we expect to start regular monthly calls in November
>    … the participants in this NGSI liaison are invited
> 
>    McCool: in the WoT group, we are developing use cases and
>    refining requirements based on user stories
>    … we could use a similar process for this work
> 
>    Kaz: we might want to clarify the relationship between the WoT
>    group and the Smart City IG
> 
>    McCool: we have a collaboration relationship and can get
>    requirements for new WoT features
>    … we had a long meeting with Rob Atkinson about the geospatial
>    location topic
> 
>    Kaz: we will have shared discussions regarding use cases and
>    detailed requirements
> 
>   WoT-ETSI liaison
> 
>    <kaz> [20][DRAFT] WoT WG/ETSI ISG CIM Simple Liaison for
>    NGSI-LD
> 
>      [20] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md

> 
>    McCool: we need to update the liaison document to capture some
>    action items
>    … propose to copy the liaison document into the Github repo and
>    make PRs to the active document
> 
>     Date
> 
>    McCool: we should update the schedule to a 2025 date
> 
>    Kaz: should we update the document in the WoT repository?
> 
>    <kaz> [21]wot repo's official liaison area
> 
>      [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/liaisons

> 
>    McCool: I will make a PR to move the proposal over to the
>    active liaisons directory
> 
>     Deliverables
> 
>    McCool: we talk about publishers and consumers
>    … the Binding Document has considerations of vocabulary and
>    scope
>    … sometimes there are required extensions that require extra
>    work
> 
>    Juanjo: do we have agreement on the first deliverable?
>    … if someone provides a ThingModel, we should be able to derive
>    a ThingDescription
> 
>    McCool: we reviewed a ThingModel catalog from which tooling
>    derives instances of ThingDescriptions
>    … there are existing directory services, etc.
>    … what are the gaps and where do we need glue?
> 
>    Martin: do we need more use cases?
> 
>    McCool: we already have a Smart City use case, are there
>    reusable items from what we have?
> 
>    Martin: I was thinking things of a more technical nature
>    … technical use cases, the first step of refinement
> 
>    McCool: In our process, we connect use cases to features using
>    requirements as user stories
>    … there are also use case scenarios with detailed documentation
> 
>    Kaz: everyone should bring existing resources around use cases
>    and requirements, then we can see what is missing
> 
>    McCool: the first step is to get organized
>    … then we can do gap analysis
>    … need to break it down to organized topics
>    … collect links and put then in one place
>    … let me get the charter created and next time we can discuss
>    how to organize things
> 
>    Kaz: we need action items
> 
>    McCool: I will create an agenda for the next meeting
>    … November 11th
> 
>    ACTION: McCool to put agenda on the wiki, and update the
>    ngsi-ld.md with proposals (and make a PR to move it from
>    "proposals" area to "liaisons" area"
> 
>    Kaz: Juanjo, please create a W3C account so that you can access
>    the WoT resources like the wiki, the mail archive and the
>    GitHub repo
> 
>    ACTION: Kaz to send a reminder to Juanjo about how to create a
>    W3C account
> 
>    McCool: any final thoughts?
> 
>    McCool: thanks everyone, sorry for the confusion
> 
>    McCool: adjourned
> 
> Summary of action items
> 
>     1. [22]Kaz to create a wiki, GitHub repo and IRC channel as
>        confirmed
>     2. [23]McCool to put agenda on the wiki, and update the
>        ngsi-ld.md with proposals (and make a PR to move it from
>        "proposals" area to "liaisons" area"
>     3. [24]Kaz to send a reminder to Juanjo about how to create a
>        W3C account
> 
> Summary of resolutions
> 
>     1. [25]"WoT/NGSI-LD_Liaison" as the wiki name,
>        "w3c/wot-ngsi-ld" as the GitHub repo name, and
>        "wot-ngsi-ld" as the IRC name
> 
> 
>     Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by
>     [26]scribe.perl version 238 (Fri Oct 18 20:51:13 2024 UTC).
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>      [26] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html

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