- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 20:12:07 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2021/09/06-wot-sec-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] https://www.w3.org/
WoT Security
06 September 2021
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Security_WebConf#6_September_2021
[3] https://www.w3.org/2021/09/06-wot-sec-irc
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Oliver_Pfaff,
Philipp_Blum, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
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Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz
Contents
1. [4]Minutes
2. [5]Signatures
3. [6]Issue 16
4. [7]Issue 14
Meeting minutes
Minutes
[8]Aug-30
[8] https://www.w3.org/2021/08/30-wot-sec-minutes.html
McCool: minutes looks OK
Kaz: will just fix the style (because we forgot to specify the
scribenick for citrullin)
Signatures
[9]wot-thing-description PR 1151 - WIP: TD Signatures
[9] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1151
McCool: (describes the summary)
… discussion on the relationship with XML Signature
[10]Oliver's comments
[10] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1151#issuecomment-909073912
McCool: would like to summarize the points maybe using a table
… a concern is what IETF is doing recently
… don't know people think what kind of strategy
Oliver: good summary
… 3 actions to do here
… 1. work on description
… 2. need for interoperable implementations
… 3. clarifying IETF's approach
… there is a gap in JWS
… Plugfest could be used to check the interoperability
… and we could give some suggestion to IETF
McCool: one possible thing
… signature as an experimental extension
… then later on, could change it based on IETF's work
Oliver: IETF JOSE is a closed WG but COSE WG is still open
… it's working on CBOR, though
McCool: COSE is mandate for CBOR
… not necessarily correct for JOSE
… my feeling is we need much modularity
… if we did it as an extension, push off the feature till the
next spec
… we could write a context file which use it
… recommend some method to handle the signature
… not MUST but simply recommend
… and for the next Charter we'll make commitment
Oliver: people would like to focus on the signature part
… regardless of the TD part
Philipp: make sense to describe that within the Security Best
Practices document?
McCool: would make sense
Kaz: would agree with that direction for this Charter period
McCool: ok
… (describes updated actions)
… extract the current spec for signatures and put it in a
separate document
Kaz: where to put that?
McCool: maybe under my private repo?
Kaz: maybe a bit confusing
… would be better to create yet another dedicated repo for that
purpose
McCool: ok
… what would be a good name?
Kaz: simply a subdirectory of wot-security, e.g., signature?
McCool: would have trouble with HTML rendering...
(some more discussion on the possible name for the repo)
Kaz: btw, we should have some more discussion with the TAG and
the Security groups too
McCool: yeah, the question here is when we want to use it
[11]fyi, XML Signature Syntax and Processing Version 2.0 REC
[11] https://www.w3.org/TR/2015/NOTE-xmldsig-core2-20150723/
Kaz: think we should start with discussion with PLH and Ralph
McCool: (adds some more comments on expected actions)
… we need to collaborate with IETF too
… when is there next meeting?
[12]IETF meetings
[12] https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/upcoming/
McCool: IETF 112 will be held Nov 6-12
Kaz: technically, we can invite somebody from IETF to our vF2F
during TPAC
McCool: yeah, we can do that too
… e.g., Carsten Bormann
… we need at least one implementation for IETF, and two if we
want to make it a W3C REC
… wondering if we want to include this into our next WoT WG
Charter
… not crit for TD 2.0.ical if it becomes an IETF RFC and we
simply cite it
… for TD 1.x, it would be optional/experimental and invokable
by using an extension vocabulary.
[13]McCool's updated comments
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1151#issuecomment-913621245
Issue 16
[14]Issue 16 - Expand Acknowledgements
[14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security-best-practices/issues/16
McCool: need to check who made contributions
… (checks the GitHub repository)
[15]McCool's comments
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security-best-practices/issues/16#issuecomment-913626699
Issue 14
[16]Issue 14 - TD Signatures, Key Management, and Object
Security
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security-best-practices/issues/14
<citrullin> [17]related PR 1151 on the wot-thing-description
repo
[17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1151
[18]McCool's comments to Issue 14
[18] https://github.com/w3c/wot-security-best-practices/issues/14#issuecomment-913628134
[19]also another comment to TD PR 1151
[19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1151#issuecomment-913628939
[adjourned]
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by
[20]scribe.perl version 136 (Thu May 27 13:50:24 2021 UTC).
[20] https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html
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