- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:40:14 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
available at:
https://www.w3.org/2021/05/19-wot-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks a lot for taking the minutes, Cristiano!
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] https://www.w3.org/
– DRAFT –
WoT-IG/WG
19 May 2021
[2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#19_May_2021
[3] https://www.w3.org/2021/05/19-wot-irc
Attendees
Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan,
Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster,
Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura,
Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima,
Zoltan_Kis
Regrets
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Chair
McCool/Sebastian
Scribe
cris
Contents
1. [4]agenda
1. [5]invited experts
2. [6]minutes
3. [7]quick updates
1. [8]signatures
2. [9]smart cites workshop
3. [10]test fest
4. [11]vF2F
4. [12]resolutions planned
1. [13]change logs
2. [14]abstract edits
5. [15]publication status
6. [16]liaisons
7. [17]TF reports
8. [18]Summary of resolutions
Meeting minutes
agenda
McCool: we have the time schedule for the f2f
… also some other minor updates from liaisons
… any other updates to the agenda?
… ok no guest
invited experts
McCool: we have a new invited expert application from the
university of Vienna
… he will probably be active in discovery and he might
contribute to the TD
minutes
<kaz> [19]May-12
[19] https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-wot-minutes.html
McCool: minor problems with Dave speach
McCool: do we already have the end date for Schaeffler
membership?
… not sure if the invited experts are reached by mail
Kaz: they have a dedicated archive and mailing list
McCool: going on, we discussed the liked data stuff
… we might talk about that later
… also we touched the smart cities workshop
Kaz: there was a typo and I've just fixed
McCool: today we are going to review and publish TD document
McCool: minutes are good, any updates or fixes?
… ok we will publish them
quick updates
signatures
McCool: I did some work on signatures for TDs
… it seems that the only candidate is xml Signatures
… the only problem is that they are xml not json
… my plan is to get inspired from them and report the same
machanism to json
… about hashing and singing algorithms we'll pick two to cover
requirements from different countries
… we need the ability to canonicolize TD fragments or Partial
TD to be enable signing
… an alternative is to use json pointers instead of
canonicalize TD fragments
… anyhow I am close to a final PR about signing
… the overall plan is to have a signature block and support
different signing solutions
… for example we can support LDS in the future
… any comments?
smart cites workshop
McCool: the deadline is now over
… we still need more cites
Kaz: yeah
McCool: did we get a proposal from singapore?
Kaz: not yet
<mjk> If we are planning to use a list (array) of JSON pointers
to select TD elements for signing, the list can be used to
order the TD. A list containing all of the TD elements would
help to canonicalize the TD.
McCool: we got a good coverage of standards and frameworks, the
only thing left is more coverage for cites
McCool: Andrea has a pitch about ontologies and Sebastian about
orchestration
… how long should be the presentation?
Kaz: I am thinking about 5 min and for pre-recorded video, we
expect all the submitters use the W3C zoom to record their
presentation, so I could create a doodle to identify their
preferred slot.
McCool: why don't we plan to have draft ready for june 1st
… so that we can armonize our presentations for the 11th
test fest
<kaz> [20]Testfest wiki
[20] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Testfest
<kaz> [21]GitHub repo
[21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.06.Online
Ege: I updated the readme
… we had a short call
McCool: We can continue today
Ege: I cannot join the first half of the call
McCool: ok maybe we could reschule cause the td call will be
just one hour long
vF2F
McCool: We had a doodle but not many people answered
… so we will try to set a tentative day and maybe people will
complain if that doesn't work
<McCool> [22]https://doodle.com/poll/p7dher5i2umr4ap8
[22] https://doodle.com/poll/p7dher5i2umr4ap8
McCool: if you have any problem with the schedule above use the
doodle to propose your availability
… we should work on the proposed topics
… I alredy fixed 3hours for discovery
McCool: ml do you have any topics for arch?
<kaz> [23]vF2F wiki
[23] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_June_2021#Virtual_F2F
Lagally: We have also profiles
McCool: adding that
… also liaison and marketing as topics
resolutions planned
<kaz> [24]PR 1145 - Changelog for 2nd WD
[24] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1145
<kaz> [25]PR 1142 - Update abstract and introduction section
[25] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1142
change logs
McCool: we plan a resolution for today to finalize TD
… but before that we have to merge two PRs both informative
… we still had namespace problems because we have to wait for
the CR before allocating them
… you had some comments, Sebastian
Sebatian: yeah there were some confusing sentences
… like error fixing that should not be there
McCool: why don't we merge and then we fix it later, right
before the publication?
McCool: ok, I'll merge it as it is
… any objections?
… we'll do a resolution after Sebastian's edits
… ok?
… merged
abstract edits
McCool: sebastian added a sentence in the abstract about Thing
Model
… it is fine but it has a minor error
Sebatian: I added also new sections to have better structure
McCool: is there a name space for tm?
Sebatian: yes there is but is embedded in the main td context
file
McCool: can you define security metadate with thing models ?
Sebatian: yes, you can
McCool: it would be better if the examples explain template
keywords
Kaz: about namespaces, would be better to have a preliminary
discussion to solve the issue.
McCool: maybe an editor note would be fine
Sebatian: there is a note now
McCool: ok I think we'll use it also for discovery
Kaz: in any case it would be good to have a preliminary
discussion with Philippe and Ralph
McCool: don't forget to add the discovery namespace
McCool: any objections to merging pr 1142?
<McCool> proposal: publish update to TD 1.1 WD as given in
[26]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/
wd-update-candidate
[26] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/wd-update-candidate
Resolution: publish update to TD 1.1 WD as given in
[27]https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/
wd-update-candidate
[27] https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/wd-update-candidate
publication status
<kaz> [28]Use Cases and Requirements Note
[28] https://www.w3.org/TR/2021/NOTE-wot-usecases-20210518/
McCool: use case document is published
… discovery is in progress
… it is going to be published soon
liaisons
Kaz: echonet is planning to contribute to use cases and plug
fest
… I am trying to clarify an actual schedule for their
contributions
McCool: it would be good to have their feedback before TPAC so
that we can do adjustments
… any news from CDD?
Kaz: I met with them last week
… we need to get in touch with ISO TC184/SC4 who defines
concrete ontology for industries
… we are going to have another call with the authors
McCool: eclass are going to have a presentation for Smart
Cities workshop
Sebatian: not really news from there
TF reports
McCool: any news from the TF?
Daniel: script call cancelled next week
Sebatian: today I am not able to moderate the TD meeting
… only one hour
… taki will be the moderator
Kaz: the call will start at the usual time
<kaz> [Plugfest call right after this call; TD call right after
the Plugfest call for 1 hour]
Sebatian: note regading thing description round trip, it turned
out there's a bug in json-ld spec
… now is fixed
<sebastian> [29]https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/514
[29] https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/514
Sebatian: they also had to issue an errata
McCool: good, it might affect canonicalization
<kaz> [adjourned]
Summary of resolutions
1. [30]publish update to TD 1.1 WD as given in https://
github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/
wd-update-candidate
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