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[wot-usecases] minutes - 23 February 2021

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:26:35 +0900
Message-ID: <87im1g40p0.wl-ashimura@w3.org>
To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
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  https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-minutes.html

also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

      [1] https://www.w3.org/

                             WoT Use Cases

23 February 2021

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

      [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#Agenda_23.2.
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/23-wot-uc-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Christine_Perey, Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally,
          Michael_McCool, Philip_Tran, Philipp_Blum, Rob_Smith,
          Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          Lagally

   Scribe
          kaz

Contents

    1. [4]Prev minutes
    2. [5]Liaisons
    3. [6]MR 97 - add edge-computing.md into index.html
    4. [7]MR 86 - Update Smartcity Dashboard UC
    5. [8]MR 94 - Focus AR/VR Guide use case on AR
    6. [9]MR 90 - Joint activity for a standardized OPC UA Binding
    7. [10]Linked Building Data CG (revisited)
    8. [11]WG Note planning

Meeting minutes

  Prev minutes

   [12]Feb-9

     [12] https://www.w3.org/2021/02/09-wot-uc-minutes.html

   Lagally: (goes through the minutes)

   Lagally: any objections?

   (none)

   approved

  Liaisons

   Lagally: OPC-UA, etc.
   … how to proceed?

   [13]OPC UA cooperation proposal

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/charters/wot-ocpua-2021-charter-draft.md

   Lagally: wondering about this "purpose"

   

   The purpose is the development of an OPC UA Binding for the W3C
   Web of Things through an OPC UA Companion specification and
   mirrored as a W3C Recommendation/Note(?) document.

   ]]

   McCool: this is a propose Charter for the OPC UA side, I
   thought

   Kaz: also think we need to update the description
   … we had discussion during the TD call as well
   … we should concentrate on simple liaison on datamodel
   definition for binding and ontology reference for TD, etc.

   Lagally: who would improve this?

   Kaz: we should ask Sebastian

   McCool: yeah, we should leave this to Sebastian
   … if we have something normative on the W3C side, we need to
   think about how to handle that
   … note that we can't change our own WoT Charter for the current
   period

   (some more discussion)

   Lagally: yeah, I agree we need to identify clear plan
   … we should discuss this with Sebastian
   … next Linked Building Data CG

   Kaz: this is also handled mainly by Sebastian :)

   McCool: yeah, need to follow it up with him
   … interested in geological information inside buildings

   Lagally: do we expect some more additional input?

   McCool: use case description, you mean?
   … we're talking about geolocation information model, etc.,
   already
   … e.g., for smart buildings

   (Sebastian joins)

   Lagally: (asks Sebastian about the OPC UA topic)
   … maybe you can give some comments on your plan?
   … how/who would create the target document mentioned here?

   McCool: someone needs to take the lead

   Sebastian: originally expecting a joint group but we had some
   discussion during the TD call
   … about the expected collaboration
   … the idea should be more OPC UA's taking lead for their work
   … and we can follow their work
   … we expect to hold a dedicated call on further discussion
   related to liaison

   Lagally: think we should review their specs, etc.

   Sebastian: my question is who would be actively working on the
   collaboration

   Kaz: I'll create a doodle poll for further discussion quickly

   Lagally: ok. let's move on then
   … next ITU-T SG 20
   … unfortunately, not available today
   … plan to have a follow-up discussion during the vF2F in March
   … the topic is gaps and next steps based our summary

   [14]ITU-T use case summary

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/master/CONTRIBUTIONS/ITU-T-Use-case-summary.md

   McCool: agree

   Lagally: btw, regarding the Linked Building Data CG
   … any plan to create use case descriptions?
   … would like to publish the first draft of the WoT Use Cases
   within a few weeks

   Sebastian: unfortunately, not able to join the use cases call
   for a while
   … so not really sure about the plan

   Lagally: we had a joint call with them

   Sebastian: will ping the CG guys

   Lagally: great

   Kaz: have been talking with the ECHONET guys
   … will talk with them again on March 5
   … will get back to you all
   … possibly could have input for future use cases

  MR 97 - add edge-computing.md into index.html

   [15]MR 97

     [15] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/97

   Lagally: would merge this

   (merged)

  MR 86 - Update Smartcity Dashboard UC

   [16]MR 86

     [16] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/86

   Philipp: added comments

   [17]Philip Tran's comments

     [17] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/86#pullrequestreview-595141626

   Lagally: can make these changes

   McCool: updates with missing references as well

   [18]diff

     [18] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-usecases/86/20a5eb5...mmccool:89774c2.html

   Philipp: what kind of references?

   McCool: existing standards, etc.
   … e.g., OGC's work

   Lagally: why don't we merge this and McCool can make editorial
   changes

   McCool: ok

   (merged)

  MR 94 - Focus AR/VR Guide use case on AR

   Lagally: work on AR/VR originally proposed by Rob and Kaz
   … updated by McCool

   McCool: would suggest we merge this

   Christine: the use case is actually AR guide. right?

   McCool: VR might not require geolocation information though AR
   does
   … that's why focus on AR here

   Christine: ok

   Lagally: (goes through Rob's comments)

   [19]Rob's comments

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/94#pullrequestreview-586653088

   Rob: there is a guidance on responsible use case of spatial
   data by the SDW IG

   [20]The Responsible Use of Spatial Data

     [20] https://w3c.github.io/sdw/responsible-use/

   Rob: related security/privacy issues as well

   McCool: will look at it

   Rob: tx

   Lagally: would make sense to extend the security/privacy
   section?

   McCool: that's my plan :)

   Rob: great

   Lagally: can we merge this MR itself and then work on the
   comments?

   McCool: that's fine

   ka: I'm OK too

   (merged)

  MR 90 - Joint activity for a standardized OPC UA Binding

   [21]MR 90

     [21] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/90

   Sebastian: this is the main README but not sure if it's still
   relevant
   … should have the discussion during the separate call

   Lagally: OK to keep it open then?

   Sebastian: ok

  Linked Building Data CG (revisited)

   <sebastian> [22]https://github.com/w3c-lbd-cg/wot-usecases/
   blob/feature_UpdateWithBim/USE-CASES/W3C-LBD-CG.md

     [22] https://github.com/w3c-lbd-cg/wot-usecases/blob/feature_UpdateWithBim/USE-CASES/W3C-LBD-CG.md

   <sebastian> [23]https://github.com/w3c-lbd-cg/wot-usecases/
   blob/feature_UpdateWithBim/USE-CASES/W3C-LBD-CG.md

     [23] https://github.com/w3c-lbd-cg/wot-usecases/blob/feature_UpdateWithBim/USE-CASES/W3C-LBD-CG.md

   Sebastian: got response from the Linked Building guys
   … they're working on a use case description

   Lagally: great

  WG Note planning

   Lagally: basic timeline

   

   - consolidated draft in next call

   - two week's review

   - publication approval in vF2F

   ]]

   [24]Use Cases draft

     [24] https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/

   Lagally: wondering about if we could have dedicated
   contributions from the co-Editors

   McCool: we'll have the PlugFest next week
   … should prioritize the work items
   … how to bring it to the vF2F?

   Lagally: would have email discussion

   Kaz: given the tight schedule, would suggest we make the TF
   resolution today instead of the next UC call in 2 weeks
   … and bring the draft to the main call tomorrow on Feb 24
   … we can add some note mentioning there might be some minor
   changes

   <Mizushima> +1

   Lagally: asking the whole group for review asap is good
   … but would like to confirm the draft is ready during the next
   call in 2 weeks

   McCool: we need to think about when to have use case discussion
   during the vF2F

   Lagally: ok

   let's talk about that during the main call tomorrow

   [adjourned]


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