- From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:03:40 +0900
- To: public-wot-ig@w3.org, public-wot-wg@w3.org
availabl at:
https://www.w3.org/2020/10/01-wot-uc-minutes.html
also as text below.
Thanks,
Kazuyuki
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
WoT Use Cases - Pre-meeting on ME joint meeting + ITU-T liaison
01 Oct 2020
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#Agenda_1.10.
Attendees
Present
Kaz_Ashimura, Chris_Needham, Gyu_Myoung_Lee,
Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Rob_Smith,
Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Chair
Lagally
Scribe
kaz
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Guests
2. [5]vF2F planning
3. [6]ITU-T
4. [7]Other liaisons
* [8]Summary of Action Items
* [9]Summary of Resolutions
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Guests
Kaz: all of the guests, Chris, Rob and Gyu Myoung, should be
aware of the W3C Patent Policy
... we can just confirm that to make sure
all: ok
Rob: I confirm I'm aware of W3C Patent Policy
Chris: yes
Gyu_Myoung: yes
vF2F planning
[10]WoT vF2F wiki
[10] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_October_2020#Agenda
Lagally: still draft, though
<mlagally> [11]https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/
[11] https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/
Lagally: we WoT WG/IG are generating a Use Cases document
... still need editorial cleanup, though
... working with the other W3C groups and SDOs
... we're the entry point to identify what kind of
functionalities would make sense and needed
... so we're collecting use cases based on a template on GitHub
[12]Use Case repo
[12] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/tree/master/USE-CASES
[13]template for use case description
[13] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/master/USE-CASES/use-case-template.md
Lagally: requirements analysis is also ongoing
... we review the proposed use cases and then put them into the
HTML document above
... on Wednesday, October 7, we'll have use case session during
the WoT vF2F meeting
[14]Oct 7 agenda
[14] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_October_2020#Oct_7
Lagally: important topics on liaison with SDOs and
collaboration with W3C groups
... we have to talk about who to invite and what to discuss
[15]draft agenda as GitHub issue
[15] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/936
Kaz: Rob is thinking of a use case about AR imaging
... would like to generate use case description collaboratively
Rob: using web video map track
... metadata on geolocation as well
... moving images based on the sensors
... use case described on the tutorial
... firstly proof of action
... secondly recording format
... not for AR specifically but can use for video overlay in
general
... useful for debugging as well
Lagally: very interesting
... can you do some presentation on Oct 7?
... how long would it take?
Rob: depends on your need :)
... but can provide resources
Lagally: would say 10 mins ;)
Kaz: great
McCool: we're working on geolocation for PlugFest (PoC for
interoperability check)
... both static and dynamic geolocation metadata management
... need to think about how to deal with that
Kaz: right, so I invited Rob :)
McCool: what about geospacial work?
Rob: working for the Geospacial group as well
McCool: geolocation metadata is horizontal for various use
cases
... we're also talking with the Publishing BG as well
... they're interested in content right management as well
... how to manage privacy for video services is also
interesting
... probably relationship there
Kaz: right
... there were several breakout sessions about those points in
Lyon, etc.
Lagally: btw, I've added Publishing BG as well to the agenda
wiki
[16]PBG agenda as GitHub issue
[16] https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/935
Kaz: put the URL for the PBG agenda above
Lagally: we'll have the detailed discussion for PBG later
during the WoT Architecture call
Rob: I'm also interested in privacy and security
... and search use cases
... metadata within video files
... so interested in blockchain as well
... best practice document on geo is also ongoing
... planning to have a breakout session during TPAC
McCool: we have another WoT TF on Discovery
... searching for geolocation metadata
... talking with some people, e.g., about DNS-based services
... also geo-based metadata
... and security/privacy TF as well
... how to protect the query is important
Lagally: wondering if it would be useful to show use cases from
the WoT TFs
<RobSmith> TPAC breakout session:
[17]https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/SessionIdeas#Video_Metada
ta_For_Moving_Objects_.26_Sensors_On_The_Web_.28WebVMT.29
[17] https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2020/SessionIdeas#Video_Metadata_For_Moving_Objects_.26_Sensors_On_The_Web_.28WebVMT.29
McCool: e.g., NHK is working on media integration use case
... we need to have discussion
... online systems available for PlugFest this week
Lagally: (added geolocation data AR to the new use cases
session)
<RobSmith> I'm also interested in discovery for WebVMT
Lagally: what about metadata discovery?
... any other use cases to be ddes?
McCool: feedback from the Scripting API TF and the TD TF?
<RobSmith> WebVMT Golden Tutorial use case:
[18]https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/geotagging/webvmt/#gold
entutorial
[18] https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/geotagging/webvmt/#goldentutorial
Kaz: possibly some use case based on the recursive Thing Model
discussion yesterday?
McCool: some special requirement for privacy management, etc.
Lagally: based on the existing media-related use cases
... we've not created actual requirements yet
... (shows the use cases draft)
... would like to have media experts who could review the
proposed use cases
<RobSmith> OGC Testbed-16 Full Motion Video to Moving Features:
[19]https://portal.ogc.org/files/?artifact_id=91644#PartFMV
[19] https://portal.ogc.org/files/?artifact_id=91644#PartFMV
Lagally: would like to capture the discussion today as use
cases
Kaz: actually, that's why I'm volunteering to work with Rob to
generate a use case based on the template :)
<RobSmith> @kaz Ok. Let's discuss AR use case offline
Kaz: +1 to ask ME guys to review the use cases
... should handle requirements as well within the UC doc
Lagally: let's talk about that during the arch call
Chris: we have little response so far from media companies
... should get real use cases in people's mind
... media companies and CE companies
... would make the media part more concrete
... next
... I'm not sure about the relevance of the things I posted to
WoT
... there is work happening on trust
... presentation from Adobe, etc. on Credible Web
... Related to trusted and verified media content: Adobe & the
Content Authenticity Initiative presentation from Credible Web
CG, [20]https://credweb.org/. And Project Origin
[21]https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/trusted-n
ews-initiative
[20] https://credweb.org/.
[21] https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/trusted-news-initiative
Lagally: we should think about that
McCool: proof based on DID, etc.
... would like to mention a use case for retail
... also multimodal interaction use cases may relevant
... and also smart city ... have real users and applications,
also
Kaz: +1
ITU-T
Gyu_Myoung: my questions related to WoT
... discussion on use cases will be in October later
... you can receive some document
... in December, there'll another plenary meeting
... you should be going to get a document from ITU-T, and can
respond to that
Lagally: what is the date?
... collaborative discussion next week on Oct 7 would be a good
input for that meeting too
Gyu_Myoung: ITU-T meeting in November for our Working Party
Lagally: sounds good
... conversation about what kind of scope you'd think relevant
... suggestion on reasonable topics
McCool: we neet to think about timeline too
... review the ITU-T document and identify the gaps, etc.
... we have a number of ITU-T documents
[22]PR 51 on ITU-T doc
[22] https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/51
Lagally: you need some more time for this?
... what about liaison doc?
... their Working Party meeting may be going to have more
high-level discussions
McCool: the goal should be closing the gaps
Lagally: right
Gyu_Myoung: fine
Lagally: let's use 20mins for ITU-T liaison on Oct 7
Other liaisons
Lagally: we have OneDM and Open Digital Twins
... will talk with Koster for OneDM
... would like to contact Open Digital Twins
McCool: also Hexagon
... smart city geolocation topics
... OneDM is related to CE companies too
<RobSmith> Hexagon are participating on OGC Testbed with me,
assuming it's the same company
McCool: believe so
Lagally: McCool, can you take an action to contact them?
... to invite then to the upcoming use cases calls
McCool: would be better to invite them after TPAC
Lagally: ok
... AOB for today?
(none)
McCool: thanks for joining the call today, all!
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
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